Lets talk NHRA Stk/SS with Lonnie Grim - Ideas - Comments

[Ken Miele]

Originally Posted by L.Fite

And yet as entry fees have increased, and what you get for that is gone down in value, the payouts have remained the same for the last what, 30 years?...
As this has happened, the NHRA has become more and more "Top Heavy" in management.
We as members should not be considered "Customers", but rather stockholders...

You were saying something about bashing? I'm trying stay on topic. We can never agree I anything can we. Remember I said some... not all.

[L.Fite]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

You were saying something about bashing? I'm trying stay on topic. We can never agree I anything can we. Remember I said some... not all.

Not trying to bash anyone, just stating what has happened over the years, and explain where some of the hard feelings are coming from.
It is not the topic of your original post, so I'll say no more on that subject.

Ken, feel free to PM me if you want to hear more of my thoughts on this subject.

[L.Fite]

So...
Back to original topic...

1) Yes purse needs an increase. No to increase in entry fees.
Increase quotas? (Never liked the quota thing, but I understand about parking, but sportsman seem to always be parked in the mud anyway, so...)

2) AHFS will never work without letting this be a performance based system.
What I see to fix... Qualified fields, qualifying points/payout, points/payout for setting records. (What ever happened to setting records?)
Any or all of the above.

3)Yes Class winners should be in, (Their class win ET used to place on ladder?)
Quotas should be raised (at least 80) and qualified fields at least 64 cars.
Some races should be possibly more?

4)Shipping weights, probably just leave well enough alone.
Some weird stuff is in there but how far off, really?
What sort of can of worms would that be after all these years?
A/C cars weigh different than no A/C, power vs non power whatever...
Shipping weight is different from title weight and actual weight is neither, so...

RACERS are not the customer...
This is an ASSOCIATION, racers are dues paying members...
(IMO: more like shareholders)
We should all be working to the original goal of making racing a safe enjoyable sport...
AND making NHRA the best place to be doing what we do.

The CUSTOMER is the spectators in the stands, or on the couch watching ESPN...
So... how do we get more folks in the stands?
(subject for another thread possibly)

You are very correct, there will always be disagreement, someone will always go away unhappy...
Have you seen the news lately?...
Hard to get anyone to agree what's for dinner!
But there has to be communication and discussion (sometimes heated!) to make things better.

Again I support Mr. Grimm in his endeavor to make things better, and do hope he has a thick skin, as he will need it to deal with this issue.
Racers live this stuff, and many take it personal.

These are just my opinions and people can agree or disagree.
We still have that choice.

Thanks for giving us a place we can rant and rave about what we love to do, and maybe make racing better most if not all...