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Old 01-09-2022, 01:31 PM   #1
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So, the 95% of us that race Stock and have motors built by todays rules should just junk our stuff because you don't want to keep up with today's Stock eliminator. So, let's all get our engine cranes out and get our motors out and set them in the rubbish. Yup that's a good idea. Think you have problems getting parts now. Why not go back and if your combo came with cast pistons you have to run cast pistons. Look I didn't ask for any of the rules they changed in the last 45 years. Wasn't a fan of a lot of them but it's what they are. No one is telling you that you can't still build your car using the rules from 45 years ago. I'd be happy if they would just stop changing the rules at all. BP
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You mean that I don’t have to use the stock slugs but still have to run a rod and piston that weighs 3.8 pounds. How heavy are they at 6100 rpm?
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You mean that I don’t have to use the stock slugs but still have to run a rod and piston that weighs 3.8 pounds. How heavy are they at 6100 rpm?
Yesterday I got a call from a guy that I have a lot of respect for. I suggested to him that after the lifters there will be a request to do away with the piston weights.......
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You mean that I don’t have to use the stock slugs but still have to run a rod and piston that weighs 3.8 pounds. How heavy are they at 6100 rpm?
Larry, Larry, Larry, Ya piks yer kombo and ya pays yer dooz.
I seem to remember the wedges getting some "rotating mass" help quite a few years ago.
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Old 01-09-2022, 03:41 PM   #5
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it's all about NHRA slowly headed down hill ,I drove by the new NHRA location ,blinked
and missed it !

If NHRA leased out their old premises, because most people are now in
Indianapolis, and they only need a small space for the ones that want
to remain in a "California" lifestyle, I like that move. They are obviously
ahead financially by that move, and that is better for us. I may not agree
with anybody remaining in California, but that's another topic.

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So, the 95% of us that race Stock and have motors built by todays rules should just junk our stuff because you don't want to keep up with today's Stock eliminator. So, let's all get our engine cranes out and get our motors out and set them in the rubbish. Yup that's a good idea. Think you have problems getting parts now. Why not go back and if your combo came with cast pistons you have to run cast pistons. Look I didn't ask for any of the rules they changed in the last 45 years. Wasn't a fan of a lot of them but it's what they are. No one is telling you that you can't still build your car using the rules from 45 years ago. I'd be happy if they would just stop changing the rules at all. BP
You can be assured that the number is not close to 95%,built by todays rules , if it's
50 % I would be surprised , if you have enhanced head then get the cherry picker ,if not then remove the valve springs ,rockers ,and go back to the 1980's ,oh but wait the rules were enforced ,and the tech department was actually checking engines ,today
it's all about NHRA slowly headed down hill ,I drove by the new NHRA location ,blinked
and missed it !
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Old 01-09-2022, 04:10 PM   #7
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You can be assured that the number is not close to 95%,built by todays rules , if it's
50 % I would be surprised , if you have enhanced head then get the cherry picker ,if not then remove the valve springs ,rockers ,and go back to the 1980's ,oh but wait the rules were enforced ,and the tech department was actually checking engines ,today
it's all about NHRA slowly headed down hill ,I drove by the new NHRA location ,blinked
and missed it !
John, I raced back in the 70's and 80's. All I have to do is look at how fast the cars are going today compared to the good old days when Stock was actually Stock not just a class that we run. I think 95% is on the low side.
We have 170 mph Stockers and a few racers are worried about 200lb spring pressure.
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We have 170 mph Stockers and a few racers are worried about 200lb spring pressure.
Ya know, the funny thing about those 170 MPH Stockers is that with the modern valve spring and camshaft technology they're using today, they probably aren't running 200 lbs of pressure.

And about "a few racers are worried about 200 lb spring pressure", as for ME, I'm not worried about it, I'm wishing for it (or less)!
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Ya know, the funny thing about those 170 MPH Stockers is that with the modern valve spring and camshaft technology they're using today, they probably aren't running 200 lbs of pressure.

And about "a few racers are worried about 200 lb spring pressure", as for ME, I'm not worried about it, I'm wishing for it (or less)!
Billy, 200lbs sprind preasure. I think you better build that time machine. Let me know when it's done I may want to go for a ride with you. Every year all I hope for is no more rule changes.
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Barry, to be perfectly clear, I don't care about the spring pressure thing one way or the other. It doesn't affect me one way or the other. If it was to become the rule, it would eventually lower the cost to compete but you don't care about that and in A/B/SA neither do I.
What I DO care about is that there are a few people out there who want roller cams allowed in non-roller combos. Now THAT will cost YOU AND ME A LOT OF MONEY to make a couple of people happy!
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