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Old 12-22-2021, 06:56 AM   #1
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So, who's going to test the new system first?
You do it. I'll watch.
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Old 12-22-2021, 08:15 AM   #2
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You do it. I'll watch.
It looks like we will never see "mineshaft" again. Obviously, this is a drastic change. I can't see where it doesn't penalize hard work.

Someone from the NHRA needs to explain how this won't have the opposite effect on the data base.

These are performance based classes, where's the incentive to go fast? Lonnie??

South Georgia will be interesting.....
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Old 12-22-2021, 09:03 AM   #3
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There are different ways to make changes, positive ways that reward people with incentive and then there are the NHRA ways. I could see this as part of a solution in concert with more rewards for performance, but NHRA execs chose only the punitive side. Unfortunately, it appears that the bean counters still rule NHRA. No racer input needed.
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Old 12-22-2021, 09:24 AM   #4
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"Data collected through the NHRA Live timing data base (including 660 foot elapsed time and 1000 foot elapsed time comparisons) will be utilized to verify if adjustments are needed".
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Since the inception of the Stock and Super Stock classes, the classes have been always considered a performance class. I believe that in the old Farmer and subsequent days, although not perfect, the adjustment system was fair.

How about heads-up runs? The current rule does not exempt heads-ups runs. The only exception is as follows: "No runs made during exempt events, National Opens, test and tune, time trials, 1/8th mile events or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos or other races that are not part of a season long points championship) are included in any review."

My hope is that this new rule does not create a hazard due to top end accidents when fast guys slam on their brakes trying to slow down their cars!
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My hope is that this new rule does not create a hazard due to top end accidents when fast guys slam on their brakes trying to slow down their cars!
As they are planning to watch the incrementals, I can't see that as an option.

Whoever wrote these changes obviously didn't do their homework!
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Old 12-22-2021, 10:08 AM   #7
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NMCA is the place to be, granted it doesn’t help the racers out west.
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NMCA is the place to be, granted it doesn’t help the racers out west.
Why is NMCA the place to be?

They use an NHRA rulebook correct? Or do they have there own Stock/SuperStock rule book? what do they do to adjust indexes? And how does their system work better than the NHRA system? I've been hearing people post on here and Facebook for a while that we should dump NHRA and make the switch, but other than me seeing maybe 20 or 30 cars in a qualifying sheet not really sure of the parody or differences that make them much better.
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As they are planning to watch the incrementals, I can't see that as an option.

Whoever wrote these changes obviously didn't do their homework!
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Since the inception of the Stock and Super Stock classes, the classes have been always considered a performance class. I believe that in the old Farmer and subsequent days, although not perfect, the adjustment system was fair.

How about heads-up runs? The current rule does not exempt heads-ups runs. The only exception is as follows: "No runs made during exempt events, National Opens, test and tune, time trials, 1/8th mile events or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos or other races that are not part of a season long points championship) are included in any review."

My hope is that this new rule does not create a hazard due to top end accidents when fast guys slam on their brakes trying to slow down their cars!
I think they should have added the same addendum that Comp has then which is "if limited to 1 qualifying run it is automatic mineshaft." That way a shortened event can not hurt if you have a one time fast run.
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