Has INDY lost its luster ???

[rod butcher]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

However, mineshaft does not negate -1.20 runs AND we are fixing to see a BLOODBATH in H/SA …..

It was a hell off a class final .003 at the stripe. The 305/263 combo is safe for now.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by rod butcher

It was a hell off a class final .003 at the stripe. The 305/263 combo is safe for now.

It sure was, the most exciting class final of the day. Congrats to Chris Butcher who won his 8th class Wally at INDY …

[Mark Yacavone]

Some reasons why the bloom is off the rose, IMO...Some might be temporary..Some not.
Not necessarily in chronological order.

Class winners no longer automatically qualify.

Single class cars have to run Combo to win a trophy

Higher entry with less money to win..Class money down to peanuts, thanks to NHRA's bogus sponsor fleecing system.

ALL class winners used to have to tear down at Paul Harvey Ford..This separated the workers from the Wallets

Labor day finals..a tradition.

All Stars are a Sportsman program..They belong at Sportsnationals..Put them back where they belong.

No longer calling class in alphabetical order. ( I should have said "running") Another tradition,...gone for the sake of expedience

No Redman

AHFS...What did enforcing it just prove, when it's going to be mineshaft anyway? All it did was hide the fact that there are a few combos that their system can't deal with.

180 quota made for more variety and more effort to make the show. Icing, pushing cars to the water box etc. in order to make or stay in the show. Isn't that what Indy is supposed to be about?

I'm sure there's more...

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Some reasons why the bloom is off the rose, IMO...Some might be temporary..Some not.
Not necessarily in chronological order.

Class winners no longer automatically qualify.

Single class cars have to run Combo to win a trophy

Higher entry with less money to win..Class money down to peanuts, thanks to NHRA's bogus sponsor fleecing system.

ALL class winners used to have to tear down at Paul Harvey Ford..This separated the workers from the Wallets

Labor day finals..a tradition.

All Stars are a Sportsman program..They belong at Sportsnationals..Put them back where they belong.

No longer calling class in alphabetical order. ( I should have said "running") Another tradition,...gone for the sake of expedience

No Redman

AHFS...What did enforcing it just prove, when it's going to be mineshaft anyway? All it did was hide the fact that there are a few combos that their system can't deal with.

180 quota made for more variety and more effort to make the show. Icing, pushing cars to the water box etc. in order to make or stay in the show. Isn't that what Indy is supposed to be about?

I'm sure there's more...

If I could have liked this post 100 times I would have.

[A/SA Fairlane]

In 2012 there were only 140 stockers and 144 super stiockers

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by A/SA Fairlane

In 2012 there were only 140 stockers and 144 super stiockers

Last time I was there, 2004..180 Stockers

[GTX JOHN]

I do not think our family will ever go there again to race.
It is not the same race and experience as it used to be for us.

Times change = I Guess.

[Ralph A Powell]

No question us old timers lived through the best times at Indy!

[Frank Castros]

How about Chris Butcher beating Jim Marshall for the H/SA Wally! I didn't see that coming.
That's what Indy is all about.

[jmcarter]

Sure Marshall has a very “colorful” take on that run, one which I’m interested in hearing when I see him next. I’m still curious just how fast Caleb really is…and who saw Hale losing class? Rink losing his class Wally streak; yep lots of oddities and disappointing in some regards but I have never been glued to my iPad like I was yesterday (and thanks to NHRATV for making that possible) so Indy is still Indy and hopefully they’ll make some announcements to help restore the luster for everyone.