“Live” from the Baby Gators 2021!!

[countrypuppy4865]

Originally Posted by GTS340

Must been a open race I guess. I wonder why it stayed at 300 hp with a 1.43 under run unless they don't count. Very fast for a OEM piston with a stock bore. Amazing!

National opens don’t follow ahfs

[340Cuda]

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865

National opens don’t follow ahfs

I have not seen anything that this is a National Open but I did see several places that mineshaft conditions were declared and that there will be no AHFS. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by 340Cuda

I have not seen anything that this is a National Open but I did see several places that mineshaft conditions were declared and that there will be no AHFS. Please correct me if I am wrong.

He was referencing a previous fast run by Dempsey's car at a National Open.

The Baby Gators is mineshaft, so none of the 1.00 under runs will count as triggers, but the 1.20 under rule still applies, so the Challenger will get HP next week.

[340Cuda]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill

He was referencing a previous fast run by Dempsey's car at a National Open.

The Baby Gators is mineshaft, so none of the 1.00 under runs will count as triggers, but the 1.20 under rule still applies, so the Challenger will get HP next week.

Thank you for the clarification.

[Larry Hill]

Cody Phillips and Summers were both disqualified for engine infractions. Both cars went quicker than 1.20 under. So how long a vacation are they going to get? So if you worked on your car all winter long to get ready to race class at the Gators and get beat by a cheater, what should be the punishment?

If you go 1.20 under and drive by the scales, trying to cheat, horsepower is still applied. It isn't fair to other competitors that race that combination to have HP applied to that combination because they did nothing wrong. So what is fair to the racers that cheated racing these combinations?

So here are my thoughts. In comp eliminator they have personal indexes. In stock and super stock I would like to see Mr. Phillips and Mr. Summers have personal HP for 2 years. It would be like owning a record--in 2 years it expires. Give those racers that cheated the Hp according to the AHFS for how far under the automatic trigger of 1.20 under. This way, the only people they hurt are themselves. This starts after their time off finishes its course.

I believe that if implemented by NHRA it would generate two major results; help stop the obvious cheated up part, catch me if you can, to stop the addition of power, the building of new cars because there’s wouldn’t be as competitive with the new personal Hp.

The list of personal Hp would be short after the first few applications.

[Larry Hill]

More pix from yesterday:

[rboyle]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

cody Phillips and Summers were both disqualified for engine infractions. Both cars went quicker than 1.20 under. So how long a vacation are they going to get? So if you worked on your car all winter long to get ready to race class at the Gators and get beat by a cheater, what should be the punishment?

If you go 1.20 under and drive by the scales, trying to cheat, horsepower is still applied. It isn't fair to other competitors that race that combination to have HP applied to that combination because they did nothing wrong. So what is fair to the racers racing these combinations?

So here are my thoughts. In comp eliminator they have personal indexes. In stock and super stock I would like to see Mr. Phillips and Mr. Summers have personal HP for 2 years. It would be like owning a record--in 2 years it expires. This way, the only people they hurt are themselves. This starts after their punishment finishes of course.

Thanks for the updates Larry. What type of engine infractions? Was it a teardown failure or something like illegal carb or something? Just curious. I don't have a horse in the race anyway.

[rognelson777]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

So here are my thoughts. In comp eliminator they have personal indexes. In stock and super stock I would like to see Mr. Phillips and Mr. Summers have personal HP for 2 years. It would be like owning a record--in 2 years it expires. Give those racers that cheated the Hp according to the AHFS for how far under the automatic trigger of 1.20 under. This way, the only people they hurt are themselves. This starts after their time off finishes its course.

I believe that if implemented by NHRA it would generate two major results; help stop the obvious cheated up part, catch me if you can, to stop the addition of power, the building of new cars because there’s wouldn’t be as competitive with the new personal Hp.

The list of personal Hp would be short after the first few applications.

Please do not push for personal Indexes. Comp is a mess now with the way Personal Indexes are setup. To make it short, Personal index goes with the driver in the class they went fast in,not the car. Switch class or car and no personal index hit. So in stock, go up or down a class and personal index would go away. In comp, change intake from 2 carbs to 1 carb and personal index goes away. Part that also bothers me is slower car can be higher on qualifying ladder because they use personal index here also.

You want to keep them from cheating.....Take away Grade points for 2 years, so no national events.., and no cannot set run class for 2 years based on violation