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Old 02-17-2021, 11:07 AM   #1
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There are no oil and gas well heads “froze.”
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I am not in the business, but these is from an email I got yesterday from our gas utility in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

"Why has this weather caused so many problems?
Due to the unprecedented, historically low temperatures over an extended period, we are seeing much higher natural gas use coupled with supply issues. As of this morning, our suppliers of natural gas are experiencing freezing gas wells due to the duration of the extreme cold. This is impacting the amount of gas they are able to provide to us."

I would think the same would be true in Texas.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:42 PM   #2
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I am not in the business, but these is from an email I got yesterday from our gas utility in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

"Why has this weather caused so many problems?
Due to the unprecedented, historically low temperatures over an extended period, we are seeing much higher natural gas use coupled with supply issues. As of this morning, our suppliers of natural gas are experiencing freezing gas wells due to the duration of the extreme cold. This is impacting the amount of gas they are able to provide to us."

I would think the same would be true in Texas.
They are freezing because they are not heat traced and insulated, gas does have condensates that will freeze, in the tubing impulse lines that runs to Pressure Transmitters and Flow Transmitters, if you use Tube Bundle that is insulated and heat traced this would not be happening, Prudhoe Bay Alaska processes more cubic feet of gas a day then any field in north America and the 50 Mega Watt Central Power Station runs on fuel gas, gas runs through a knock out drum that separates the condensates out. I have seen 35 to 45 below 95 below chill factor for weeks on end and everything keeps running. There is no way in hell a wind turbine could operate in these temperatures, and Solar! no sun for 3 months

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Old 02-17-2021, 03:51 PM   #3
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Looks like swapping the battery out rather than charging it is the way of the future. Might work in populated areas, can't see it working to well in remote areas.

"Electric Cars can be designed to allow a fast battery swap, exchanging your battery for a fully charged battery in less than half the time it takes to refill a gas tank. This offers Tesla Model S drivers an even faster option when recharging while driving long distances."

Still haven't figured out where all the electricity is going to come from.

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Old 02-17-2021, 04:11 PM   #4
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Looks like swapping the battery out rather than charging it is the way of the future. Might work in populated areas, can't see it working to well in remote areas.

"Electric Cars can be designed to allow a fast battery swap, exchanging your battery for a fully charged battery in less than half the time it takes to refill a gas tank. This offers Tesla Model S drivers an even faster option when recharging while driving long distances."

Still haven't figured out where all the electricity is going to come from.

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Jim,

You are right, no such thing as perpetual motion, at least not yet, it still takes HP or KW to move an object.

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Old 02-18-2021, 12:59 PM   #5
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I remember being in a meeting when Ford bought the Think electric car company. The person introducing the cars said that Ford had just finished a year long electric car owners survey. The conclusion: Everybody thought it was a good idea if their neighbor bought an electric car to clean up the environment. Started the meeting out on a light note. Tesla seems to have changed that mind set. As they say, come on in the water is fine. I'm still from the show me state.
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Old 02-18-2021, 06:41 PM   #6
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Looks like swapping the battery out rather than charging it is the way of the future. Might work in populated areas, can't see it working to well in remote areas.

"Electric Cars can be designed to allow a fast battery swap, exchanging your battery for a fully charged battery in less than half the time it takes to refill a gas tank. This offers Tesla Model S drivers an even faster option when recharging while driving long distances."

Still haven't figured out where all the electricity is going to come from.

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I just googled "Tesla battery replacement cost", and it came up with $16,000 parts and labor, with 13 hours required to perform the task. Even my old Ford truck with dual gas tanks took considerably less than 26 hours to fill both tanks.
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I wonder how all the Tesla drivers are doing in Texas this week?
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Old 02-19-2021, 09:32 AM   #8
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Has anyone checked EBay or Amazon for cheep Chinese replacements batteries that have a half life measured nanoseconds?
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I wonder how all the Tesla drivers are doing in Texas this week?
I know one thing the lithium battery in my race car does not like cold weather. It struggles to start the car when the weather is real cold. I just hook up the 16 v charger to it like a jump box and it starts. Once its warmed up then it works good all day. in the future I will warm the battery with a small heater in the cold weather.
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:39 AM   #10
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I'm a little late to this post... but the realistic-ness of the entire country investing in the infrastructure to support only electric vehicles is a pipe dream.. it wont happen. we cant even take of the roads we already got..

Second as soon as these car companies decide to push back hard enough.. the damage to the planet these electric car are doing will be exposed.. the mining and disposal practices are just as bad if not worse than the fossil fuel productions and emissions..

Third.. I would put money on some version of hydrogen powered vehicles whether is a blend with gasoline or something else becoming the gold standard moving forward and electric becoming a popular metro area solution.
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