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Old 11-16-2020, 10:15 AM   #1
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I'm NOT a hater. In fact I hope I am very wrong but a lot of you can not see the forest for the trees. There are not enough REAL sportsman cars being allowed in to even have class run offs at most races this coming year. Plenty of S/C, S/G, Top Sportsman, Top dragster and now the S/ST cars with little to no inspections. Its turned into a bracket race !
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Old 11-16-2020, 12:54 PM   #2
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I'm NOT a hater. In fact I hope I am very wrong but a lot of you can not see the forest for the trees. There are not enough REAL sportsman cars being allowed in to even have class run offs at most races this coming year. Plenty of S/C, S/G, Top Sportsman, Top dragster and now the S/ST cars with little to no inspections. Its turned into a bracket race !
That's funny. Guess you didn't look at the schedule. Stock, Super Stock, Super Comp and Super Gas ARE THE ONLY SPORTSMAN CLASSES NOT!!! CUT FROM ANY NATIONAL EVENT. Those 4 classes are the foundation of NHRA. Without them there is no Professional NHRA.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:01 PM   #3
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And as far as quotas go. Have you seen the tow rigs these days? There isn't room for more cars. WE did that....not NHRA. I have a 39ft rv with a 28ft trailer and my crap is small in the pits compared to a 40ft toter and 40ft stacker with a 15ft wide awning off one side. Now go back to trucks with open trailers where you pit off the back of the trailer....a quota of 45 stockers turns into 90. Again.... WE as racers did that to the quotas. Has nothing to do with limiting the sportsman racer. NHRA might be stupid but they ain't dumb.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:12 PM   #4
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And as far as quotas go. Have you seen the tow rigs these days? There isn't room for more cars. WE did that....not NHRA. I have a 39ft rv with a 28ft trailer and my crap is small in the pits compared to a 40ft toter and 40ft stacker with a 15ft wide awning off one side. Now go back to trucks with open trailers where you pit off the back of the trailer....a quota of 45 stockers turns into 90. Again.... WE as racers did that to the quotas. Has nothing to do with limiting the sportsman racer. NHRA might be stupid but they ain't dumb.

All excellent points.When I started, I flat towed.


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Old 11-16-2020, 04:00 PM   #5
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And as far as quotas go. Have you seen the tow rigs these days? There isn't room for more cars. WE did that....not NHRA. I have a 39ft rv with a 28ft trailer and my crap is small in the pits compared to a 40ft toter and 40ft stacker with a 15ft wide awning off one side. Now go back to trucks with open trailers where you pit off the back of the trailer....a quota of 45 stockers turns into 90. Again.... WE as racers did that to the quotas. Has nothing to do with limiting the sportsman racer. NHRA might be stupid but they ain't dumb.
Not that I am disagreeing with you when it comes to the real estate being consumed by large RV's but that argument does not hold water when it comes to tracks like LV, there is a ton of empty space even at the largest events. Quotas at races like that should be expanded.
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Not that I am disagreeing with you when it comes to the real estate being consumed by large RV's but that argument does not hold water when it comes to tracks like LV, there is a ton of empty space even at the largest events. Quotas at races like that should be expanded.
I do understand that, but the logic is to try to keep an even field all across the US as to not give any certain racer an advantage. Over 65 cars and the points available changes, i.e. R/U gets 94 instead of 84 and semi's gets 83 instead of 73. It would be an advantage to west coast racers. There are a few on this end that can handle more but you can't have Southern Nationals in Commerce GA have a Stock quota of 45 and LV have a quota of 75. The runner ups and Semis in LV would get 10 more points than than the same finish in Commerce. Crazy thing is the winner is still 105 regardless, from 33 cars to 128 cars. And I am not trying to argue a point with anyone. Just making points because alot of people blame NHRA when in reality, WE as racers started most of the issues. Ok....I'll get off my soap box lol.
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I love racing class eliminations.
But folks that ship has sailed away
Nhra doesn’t give a .........**** about class eliminations
they have slowly cut back and fazed it out
We Are Not The Show. !....... Dan Fletcher quote
I would think Indy would definitely have class eliminations .
but once NHRA gets away with running class at Indy like they did. They will do it again
Also NHRA has bigger problems than us. They need live fans to make some$$$$

Let’s hope we as racers can continue to race a schedule as put out
Because the whole dam world is up it the air. Nothing guaranteed
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I love racing class eliminations.
But folks that ship has sailed away
Nhra doesn’t give a .........**** about class eliminations
they have slowly cut back and fazed it out
We Are Not The Show. !....... Dan Fletcher quote
I would think Indy would definitely have class eliminations .
but once NHRA gets away with running class at Indy like they did. They will do it again
Also NHRA has bigger problems than us. They need live fans to make some$$$$

Let’s hope we as racers can continue to race a schedule as put out
Because the whole dam world is up it the air. Nothing guaranteed
And we're not going to Indy without class eliminations. Not a fan of running them at the Baby Gators rather than at the Gators either.
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Not that I am disagreeing with you when it comes to the real estate being consumed by large RV's but that argument does not hold water when it comes to tracks like LV, there is a ton of empty space even at the largest events. Quotas at races like that should be expanded.
Not to mention the extra money that comes from camping fees. I don't remember ever paying a fee when I brought in my car on a flatbed trailer with my pickup. Not sure all the tracks charge the fee but it's probably heading that way.
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Not to mention the extra money that comes from camping fees. I don't remember ever paying a fee when I brought in my car on a flatbed trailer with my pickup. Not sure all the tracks charge the fee but it's probably heading that way.
Very few dont charge, the 2 tracks in SD charge you to leave your mh over nite.
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