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Old 10-09-2020, 10:01 AM   #1
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Can you give some examples? Are we talking items like wrong emblems, spoilers, fog lights or something like the wrong carb?
This is a slippery slope. I will keep my specific observations to myself, but again, these were items so bad that I honestly laughed out loud a few times. I am not the trim and emblem police, and while I agree those items should be correct per the combination of car claimed, they are not solely responsible for a tenth or two. I only noted items that would result in a performance gain.

Who is ultimately responsible for ensuring these cars are legal?

#1: Is it the racers that police themselves and call people out to the car owner/driver? (That’s a fun conversation)

#2: Or do you report illegal things to the proper NHRA official at the race?

#3: Both?

Some would not be comfortable with #1, but some certainly will when your exact combo is the one affected. #2 is fairly easy and could be done anonymously enough to not create conflict if so desired.
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Old 10-09-2020, 10:07 AM   #2
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Old 10-09-2020, 12:15 PM   #3
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This is a slippery slope. I will keep my specific observations to myself, but again, these were items so bad that I honestly laughed out loud a few times. I am not the trim and emblem police, and while I agree those items should be correct per the combination of car claimed, they are not solely responsible for a tenth or two. I only noted items that would result in a performance gain.

Who is ultimately responsible for ensuring these cars are legal?

#1: Is it the racers that police themselves and call people out to the car owner/driver? (That’s a fun conversation)

#2: Or do you report illegal things to the proper NHRA official at the race?

#3: Both?

Some would not be comfortable with #1, but some certainly will when your exact combo is the one affected. #2 is fairly easy and could be done anonymously enough to not create conflict if so desired.
IMO ..we have a group of the most knowledgeable and experienced drivers and class car builders ever assembled right here
So if you're going to accuse people or a whole group of people of cheating, you should list these items here and let the group address them.
Otherwise your just wasting bandwidth.
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Old 10-09-2020, 01:02 PM   #4
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IMO ..we have a group of the most knowledgeable and experienced drivers and class car builders ever assembled right here
So if you're going to accuse people or a whole group of people of cheating, you should list these items here and let the group address them.
Otherwise your just wasting bandwidth.
Ok, I ll bite......you have a bunch of NEWBIES that don’t know OR understand all the rules in stock Eliminator....I had a phone conversation with a SEASONED racer yesterday. He was at the Reynolds open walking through the pits and saw a crank trigger on a stocker.......WTF ?????? Of course TECH is done online as a result of the CHINESE VIRUS so that adds to the fact that many of these new racers are not getting looked at....
I have raced forever and I don’t even know the CURRENT rule on e shift, air shift, electric shift....I have heard some FSS Stockers and even some CARB Stockers have assistance shifting their trans....I do know that e shift is legal on efi combos.....
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Old 10-09-2020, 01:50 PM   #5
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.....saw a crank trigger on a stocker.....
Depends on the car. It is legal on a 1992-98 LT motor.
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Depends on the car. It is legal on a 1992-98 LT motor.
Wrong answer,.....It wasn’t a 92-98 LT motor....It wasn’t a 350 cubic inch motor.....

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Old 10-09-2020, 05:26 PM   #7
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Wrong answer,.....It wasn’t a 92-98 LT motor....It wasn’t a 350 cubic inch motor.....
Well M.J., it is the right answer but the wrong car.
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:39 PM   #8
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Wrong answer,.....It wasn’t a 92-98 LT motor....It wasn’t a 350 cubic inch motor.....
I think if someone sees something that blatant they owe it to the integrity of the sport to either approach the racer or mention this to tech personnel.
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:58 PM   #9
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I have been in the barn 4 times with my combo. All good every time. We all need to visit the barn now and then.
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Old 10-09-2020, 09:02 PM   #10
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The internet is infested with Trolls/Windbags/Mudslingers
by the legion.!!! Every Mother's Son anxious to stir up the S**t!

Been racing stock for 40 plus years. Have spent more money than I want to know. Yes I could name names. This is just letting people know if things don't get better... we will be looking at stuff. I do believe the majority are legal.
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