First VS Worst red light

[J DeForrest]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

If there is a logical argument against TruSTART, I’d love to hear it.

If you look at it logically, only the tree matters here. Keep out any other fast car vs slow car advantages/disadvantages. I have been running S/SS for only 15 yrs, but been around it for over 40, and have never ran into ANYONE who thinks there is an advantage to the slow end of a staggered tree. The rule is fine as-is, as it can level out the non-clean tree racer in rare instances. This Tru-start in MY opinion is one baby step towards 'everyone gets a trophy'

The only situation Tru start makes sense to me is a delay box class with crosstalk on, but that is another conversation.

[Dave Noll]

Seems to be a more civil response this time around.

[Mike Rietow]

You want rules that are rational,make sense and are not arbitrary.

First is worse is arbitrary. Arbitrary is authoritarian, authoritarian is leftist.

The argument because the fast car doesn't have a clean tree, it should given the advantage of first is worse, isn't a rational argument. It's an opinion.

Ya definitely don't want subjective (opinion) rules.

Objectivity through rational thought is western and masculine concept liberals challenge on a daily basis across this country, and we're losing enough ground as it is.

You want rules that are objective , make sense and are not arbitrary..

[Jeff Stout]

Still wondering why first is worse in a heads up. This is a performance class and fastest car in heads up should be the winner first redlight should not be relevant by some of your way of thinking

[Lenny5160]

There is a concentration advantage to be gained for the faster car under TruSTART as well. Without it, I know I'd have a tendency to sneak a peek to the other side to see if my opponent happened to go red. With TruSTART, the slower car's bulb always shows green so there's nothing to see over there. It helps me keep my mind where it should be.

[Mike Rietow]

Take a rational approach in looking at it. When does a drag race start? Answer, when two cars start the clocks.

It's arbitrary to declare one contestant loser, before the race even starts.

It takes two to have a drag race.

If you make a single it's not a drag race, it's a pass or a lap..

[Mike Pearson]

If it came to a vote I would pick the Tru start. Technology has changed over the years and this could be one of the improvements. I don't remember if it would have ever helped me. I doubt it would com in to play that often.

[Quo Pro Joe]

Class racing is different than bracket racing in that it is a performance class. Some guy in a fast H/SA could theoretically be giving a handicap to a slow A/SA.If he does and the A/SA redlights,that is too bad.

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by J DeForrest

If you look at it logically, only the tree matters here. Keep out any other fast car vs slow car advantages/disadvantages. I have been running S/SS for only 15 yrs, but been around it for over 40, and have never ran into ANYONE who thinks there is an advantage to the slow end of a staggered tree. The rule is fine as-is, as it can level out the non-clean tree racer in rare instances. This Tru-start in MY opinion is one baby step towards 'everyone gets a trophy'

The only situation Tru start makes sense to me is a delay box class with crosstalk on, but that is another conversation.

Non clean tree doesn't hold water with me. At brackets races I pretty much spot all cars and have not seen the case in not having a clean tree. The focus is on the tree, then keep car straight as possible , then after in drive I start looking for opponent . If your watching slow car leave and interfere with your focus I can only suggest more bracket races, team races,s/ss combos and at the big div and nats you can hopefully go more rounds.

[Speer Drag Racing]

Originally Posted by J DeForrest

If you look at it logically, only the tree matters here. Keep out any other fast car vs slow car advantages/disadvantages. I have been running S/SS for only 15 yrs, but been around it for over 40, and have never ran into ANYONE who thinks there is an advantage to the slow end of a staggered tree. The rule is fine as-is, as it can level out the non-clean tree racer in rare instances. This Tru-start in MY opinion is one baby step towards 'everyone gets a trophy'

The only situation Tru start makes sense to me is a delay box class with crosstalk on, but that is another conversation.

As I was reading through the responses, Jason's response is exactly what was going through my head! I will deal with the rules however they are decided. We all can't be as good as Jeff who has never been distracted by a slower car leaving! I had issues with that for years and have worked my butt off at becoming as focused as possible but it's still difficult. I say leave it as is!