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Old 08-07-2020, 01:18 PM   #1
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Default Re: aerodynamic drag and body style

Some numbers I have.

'84 Firebird Trans Am W62 Aero 0.30
No numbers for a '84 Camaro

'88 Firebird Trans Am GTA 0.31
'88 Camaro IROC 0.34

'91 Firebird Trans Am GTA 0.31
No numbers for a '91 Camaro

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Old 08-07-2020, 01:34 PM   #2
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non-issue! unless you are running 130 mph in my opinion
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Old 08-07-2020, 02:39 PM   #3
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Seems like a lot of over thinking for an eighth mile bracket car.
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Old 08-07-2020, 02:49 PM   #4
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Lee, overthinking is one of my high skills. And I think overthinking is a common trait for many hot rodders. I point to stockers, got to be one of the most overthought packages ever. However, overthinking often leads to success.
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Old 08-07-2020, 03:36 PM   #6
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Default Re: aerodynamic drag and body style

An 1/8th mile bracket car will only be on the track for six seconds or so and a large portion of the run will be at a much lower speed than finish line speed which would make aerodynamics less important. I agree with Lee.
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Old 08-08-2020, 12:17 AM   #7
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When considering aerodynamics of drag racing cars/trucks, etc. The assumption of aerodynamic drag only has an effect at speed is incorrect. One can think of the issue becoming important at any speed over 40mph and the aero drag resistance is exponential to the speed very closely following the square law and more. That becomes a lot of free power by cleaning up (legally of course) the aerodynamic drag for the vehicle. Lots of rules of aero thumb to apply, but it is best to study and learn what can help with the selection of vehicles and how to improve them. An example is: external rear view mirrors cost about 0.6% in drag power.
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Old 08-08-2020, 11:32 AM   #8
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also tire width ,fender flares, ground effects ,spoilers, unnecessary openings in the grille area, upward lift attitude of the front end at speed as opposed to downward attitude--elimination of any unnecessary body parts ( mirrors etc.) ---all these affect airflow over under and around the vehicle ---You want to make the vehicle silohuette as smooth as possible ( within any rules restrictions course)--as vehicle speed increases it becomes of paramount importance to consider all of these----look at a jellybean as opposed to a brick and or a Corvette vs. a Van and you will get the idea--- modern auto manufacturers go to great lengths in "styling" their products not only for looks but to achieve the tinyest of drag reductions to increase fuel mileage
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Old 08-08-2020, 08:06 PM   #9
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Back in the day a few stock and S/S cars ran a vinyl roof claiming the pebble on the texture was worth some MPH,however small the gain was.FWIW,Jason Line's Buick GS has a vinyl roof...gsa612
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Old 08-09-2020, 01:21 AM   #10
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Larry, you have e-mail.
Sorry couldn't get the excel to post here
are you still using the "Woodfinlarry" mail?
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