INDY , 2019 parking fiasco. ...

[Mike Fuller]

IMO it is time to drop the two index classes. NHRA has added Top Dragster and Top Sportsman so that should be enough classes to keep the show going. SG and SC did not fill thier quota's so it looks like they are not that geeked on being here for the big go. Remember it is go fast or go home at this race.

[Floyd Staggs]

Originally Posted by Mike Fuller

IMO it is time to drop the two index classes. NHRA has added Top Dragster and Top Sportsman so that should be enough classes to keep the show going. SG and SC did not fill thier quota's so it looks like they are not that geeked on being here for the big go. Remember it is go fast or go home at this race.

You are right, throttle stops and electronics don't belong at this race.

[63corvette]

Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs

You are right, throttle stops and electronics don't belong at this race.

It is getting really old with some of you guys acting like a bunch of teenage girls bashing other racers and classes.
As a former stock racer and current SG racer and at Indy currently I believe unless we support all the classes all of us will be kicked to the curb.
We will all be out of the big races.
End of rant.
Go ahead and trash me ladies.
Rick Cates SG 56

[Floyd Staggs]

Rick,
Not trashing you but back in the old days we ran our roadster in S/C with a 468" and a bolt under the throttle. 8.90's at 150 plus.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs

Rick,
Not trashing you but back in the old days we ran our roadster in S/C with a 468" and a bolt under the throttle. 8.90's at 150 plus.

So it's OK for a legal C/SA to be over 1 second quicker than in 1990, but progress be damned in the Super classes?

Do TD and TS need to give up their delay boxes and nitrous timers for Indy, or are those OK?

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

So it's OK for a legal C/SA to be over 1 second quicker than in 1990, but progress be damned in the Super classes?

Do TD and TS need to give up their delay boxes and nitrous timers for Indy, or are those OK?

You have to understand that Indy is all about go fast or go home for every class with the exception of the Super classes. They are the only all run class. The Top classs are big buck bracket cars. I don’t think any of these classes have the history behind them like the more traditional NHRA class cars have. By the way they are also the only classes that are allowed the electronic crutches. Everyone else leaves off of the bulb. I am not a fan of the delay box or throttle stop stuff. Just my opinion.

[Lenny5160]

I love how everyone piles on the Super Classes for providing an 8-round race although not filling the quota, but not a word about Comp not filling the qualified field. All-run!

[63corvette]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

So it's OK for a legal C/SA to be over 1 second quicker than in 1990, but progress be damned in the Super classes?

Do TD and TS need to give up their delay boxes and nitrous timers for Indy, or are those OK?

Tony, we all play by the rules NHRA gives us or at least most of us do.
A few years ago the SST, SG, and SC guys and gals were given a vote chance to lower the index's by a half or a full second for all classes. It was voted down by the majority mostly due to so many not being able to compete at the faster index or due to the cost to the racers to go that much faster.
My SG car can go the full second faster so it was ok with me however, I understand others issue's by voting it down.
Should the delay boxes be outlawed by the rules that will be fine with me. It is a easy change for me. I can adapt. Just give me the rules and I can play by them.
I did not complain and that is basically the same issue I hate to see. People on here trashing a class just because they do not run that class.
I watch and support all the class's and have race friends in all class's up to and including a few in the Pro class's
If we do not support all the sportsman class's as a whole we may not like the final outcome.
The Sportsmen class's are just filler the Pro's are the show and most of know that.
Some on here just do not get it and think of themselves and live in there own bubble.
The Pro's are currently running here at Indy so I am off to watch some of it.
End of second rant.
Rick Cates

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by 63corvette

Tony, we all play by the rules NHRA gives us or at least most of us do.
A few years ago the SST, SG, and SC guys and gals were given a vote chance to lower the index's by a half or a full second for all classes. It was voted down by the majority mostly due to so many not being able to compete at the faster index or due to the cost to the racers to go that much faster.
My SG car can go the full second faster so it was ok with me however, I understand others issue's by voting it down.
Should the delay boxes be outlawed by the rules that will be fine with me. It is a easy change for me. I can adapt. Just give me the rules and I can play by them.
I did not complain and that is basically the same issue I hate to see. People on here trashing a class just because they do not run that class.
I watch and support all the class's and have race friends in all class's up to and including a few in the Pro class's
If we do not support all the sportsman class's as a whole we may not like the final outcome.
The Sportsmen class's are just filler the Pro's are the show and most of know that.
Some on here just do not get it and think of themselves and live in there own bubble.
The Pro's are currently running here at Indy so I am off to watch some of it.
End of second rant.
Rick Cates

I agree Rick, great post.

[BKSG1198]

Originally Posted by 63corvette

Tony, we all play by the rules NHRA gives us or at least most of us do.
A few years ago the SST, SG, and SC guys and gals were given a vote chance to lower the index's by a half or a full second for all classes. It was voted down by the majority mostly due to so many not being able to compete at the faster index or due to the cost to the racers to go that much faster.
My SG car can go the full second faster so it was ok with me however, I understand others issue's by voting it down.
Should the delay boxes be outlawed by the rules that will be fine with me. It is a easy change for me. I can adapt. Just give me the rules and I can play by them.
I did not complain and that is basically the same issue I hate to see. People on here trashing a class just because they do not run that class.
I watch and support all the class's and have race friends in all class's up to and including a few in the Pro class's
If we do not support all the sportsman class's as a whole we may not like the final outcome.
The Sportsmen class's are just filler the Pro's are the show and most of know that.
Some on here just do not get it and think of themselves and live in there own bubble.
The Pro's are currently running here at Indy so I am off to watch some of it.
End of second rant.
Rick Cates

Rick,
Wish I knew you were here, I’d come over and BS with ya.