If an advocate could be found - what would you say?

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Tony,
In short, I said lots of folks run in several categories and if you ran in Stock or Super Stock you would have a better insight into your class racing question.

I'm interested in a little more insight than the sportsman racing version of "it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand."

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

I'm interested in a little more insight than the sportsman racing version of "it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand."

Ok, specifically you made a comment about your opinion not being of any real value on this thread. And I said you were wrong, but I did not specifically address the value of your comment. Now you're not happy about being wrong.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Ok, specifically you made a comment about your opinion not being of any real value on this thread. And I said you were wrong but did I not specifically address the value of your comment. Now you're not happy about being wrong.

I said that I'm happy to be wrong as long as I can learn something from it. I'm asking to be educated. You saying "just because" isn't adding value.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

I said that I'm happy to be wrong as long as I can learn something from it. I'm asking to be educated. You saying "just because" isn't adding value.

Just Because? Last time for you. You posted that I might think your comment had no value. And then you said you would be happy to be wrong if that was not the case. I said you were wrong about this comment. That is, your comments do have value.

Now we have to return to the original intent of this thread. We have wondered in the woods long enough!

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Just Because? Last time for you. You posted that I might think your comment had no value. And then you said you would be happy to be wrong if that was not the case. I said you were wrong about this comment. That is, your comments do have value.

Now we have to return to the original intent of this thread. We have wondered in the woods long enough!

I don't want sportsman racing eliminated from national events, nor do I think it is going to happen anytime soon. If it did, I don't think it would be the end of the world.

I guess the class eliminations portion will remain a mystery to me, which isn't going to help me come around to your point of view. I'm sorry that intelligent discussion is too much to ask here. Maybe in another venue someday.

[GUMP]

At the Orlando points meet I was the only car that pitted on the "spectator" side. I had a pretty steady flow of visitors. Almost every one of them asked me what the deal was with the way all the super class cars ran. I did my best to explain to them what was going on, but don't feel that I really won them over. Maybe this can be fixed with better announcing? I think that a lot more could be done to make sportsman racing more "fan friendly".

As a side note, the stands have been packed for Lights Out........

[CMcAllister]

Originally Posted by GUMP

At the Orlando points meet I was the only car that pitted on the "spectator" side. I had a pretty steady flow of visitors. Almost every one of them asked me what the deal was with the way all the super class cars ran. I did my best to explain to them what was going on, but don't feel that I really won them over. Maybe this can be fixed with better announcing? I think that a lot more could be done to make sportsman racing more "fan friendly".

As a side note, the stands have been packed for Lights Out........

Over 15,000 watching online and over 15,000 (SRO) at the track yesterday. They're having a meeting in California tomorrow to discuss making RVW, X275 and N/T new eliminators. .

[Dave Gantz]

Originally Posted by GUMP

At the Orlando points meet I was the only car that pitted on the "spectator" side. I had a pretty steady flow of visitors. Almost every one of them asked me what the deal was with the way all the super class cars ran. I did my best to explain to them what was going on, but don't feel that I really won them over. Maybe this can be fixed with better announcing? I think that a lot more could be done to make sportsman racing more "fan friendly".

As a side note, the stands have been packed for Lights Out........

Spectators, understandably, expect flat out, who gets there first wins racing. Dial-ins, delays, etc., don't provide that.
Handicaps, 90 racing, and whatever else isn't heads up came about because the very nature of heads up racing results in a combination of hard work and money spent. Anyone can provide the hard work, but not everyone can provide the money. When this became apparent, racing started to suffer (low car counts).
If there was a simple, easy way to communicate to the average fan the fact that racing is what it is because of that "root of all evil", maybe spectating would increase.

[1320racer]

I'm back, did you miss me?

Originally Posted by GUMP

the stands have been packed for Lights Out........

ghetto racing and the element it appeals to and brings to a track is no competition to the NHRA/LODRS events and what we do and I'll never be any part of it.