FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ?

[Carguy49]

I like the idea. The index should be a little higher for each of the classes. Maybe 8.90 for the Hemi cars and 8.60 for the Factory cars. Just an idea.

[fastlane]

The problem I see is NHRA says FSS all rules apply so in comp
9 inch tire
no transbrake
no airshifter
3525 lbs or 3550 depending on brand
and having a second tune for Sunoco when most run VP
every one of those things is making them not competitive with the competition

[Jim Bailey]

I think it's a positive "start". It addresses a couple issues. Number one - too many classes in Super Stock. Number two - short car counts in Comp. My thought is to continue on, and move other "Modified" classes in Super Stock to Comp to further clean up the SS class, and returning to the more conventional SS Cars. This could also lead to a cleansing in Stock, by making room for the current Super Stock style cars running in Stock to be moved to SS where they belong.....

[SSGT Mustang]

I think getting low 9, 8, and now 7 second cars out of stock eliminator is a very big step in the right direction if that's how this plays out.

Running a 150 mph plus car against 90-120 mph cars just isn't safe in my opinion. I can't imagine that guys running those cars are to thrilled having to run a 12 second car sitting on the limiter for 3 or 4 seconds. Seems like a lifetime.

Hemi cars are going to need a weight break with that index. They would all need to be 8.20 cars just to be fifty under, and fifty under doesn't cut it in comp anymore. They're on the ragged edge as it is. I'm not sure they could get to -.70 under unless there was a big weight break and other changes allowed.

[fastlane]

Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang

I think getting low 9, 8, and now 7 second cars out of stock eliminator is a very big step in the right direction if that's how this plays out.

Running a 150 mph plus car against 90-120 mph cars just isn't safe in my opinion. I can't imagine that guys running those cars are to thrilled having to run a 12 second car sitting on the limiter for 3 or 4 seconds. Seems like a lifetime.

Hemi cars are going to need a weight break with that index. They would all need to be 8.20 cars just to be fifty under, and fifty under doesn't cut it in comp anymore. They're on the ragged edge as it is. I'm not sure they could get to -.70 under unless there was a big weight break and other changes allowed.

How about the FSS cars at 8.47 that would be 7.97 faster then any FSS car ever ran last year, does that seem fair? And add in they must run a 9 inch tire and no trans brake or airshifter and 3525 lbs

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by fastlane

How about the FSS cars at 8.47 that would be 7.97 faster then any FSS car ever ran last year, does that seem fair? And add in they must run a 9 inch tire and no trans brake or airshifter and 3525 lbs

Pawuk went 7.92 and Pritchett went 7.93 last year, so -.54 under in good air. Not to mention the 7.70s-7.80s runs made in testing with the new COPO and Cobra Jet combos these past couple weeks (granted, in really good air). These cars have continued to pick up a lot of ET every year, and it appears that 2019 will be more of the same. It may be a little tough right now, but it's at least in the ball park. The last thing comp needs is another AA/SM situation when a new class just demolishes everything else out there.

The AH index does seem super tough though. The quickest AH run in 2018 (at the Gators, no less) would only be -0.45 under the 8.75 index.

I love comp and hope this increases the field size.

[Hacksaw]

This is a good move for all but two things, at first it will be hard to accept the new FS cars mixing it up with the regular group but given the diversity of the class it won't take long to for them to fit in. Second, the AH cars got a very less than favorable index and probably the only way that will get moved is after they show that they are not competitive, which means they show up to race and know their taking a beatin for how long ???? Don't see that happening.

[Matt Welker]

Originally Posted by Hacksaw

Second, the AH cars got a very less than favorable index and probably the only way that will get moved is after they show that they are not competitive, which means they show up to race and know their taking a beatin for how long ???? Don't see that happening.

I know one AH car that is going to show up and take a beating at every race all year. Sure, the AH/SM index is tough and a little unreasonable, but it is better then running A/SM. Hopefully a correction will happen, but even with personal indexes in comp, they shouldn't and won't gift new classes as 70+ under players at the start.

[Mike Jones]

Originally Posted by Hacksaw

This is a good move for all but two things, at first it will be hard to accept the new FS cars mixing it up with the regular group but given the diversity of the class it won't take long to for them to fit in. Second, the AH cars got a very less than favorable index and probably the only way that will get moved is after they show that they are not competitive, which means they show up to race and know their taking a beatin for how long ???? Don't see that happening.

I don't think NHRA will let the FS cars take a beating for long....
Mike

[G Schenck]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill

Pawuk went 7.92 and Pritchett went 7.93 last year, so -.54 under in good air. Not to mention the 7.70s-7.80s runs made in testing with the new COPO and Cobra Jet combos these past couple weeks (granted, in really good air). These cars have continued to pick up a lot of ET every year, and it appears that 2019 will be more of the same. It may be a little tough right now, but it's at least in the ball park. The last thing comp needs is another AA/SM situation when a new class just demolishes everything else out there.

The AH index does seem super tough though. The quickest AH run in 2018 (at the Gators, no less) would only be -0.45 under the 8.75 index.

I love comp and hope this increases the field size.

you are right on Andrew, AH needs to be about an 85 , FX 8.47 is a little easy with the new blowers.
PS how will they run with Sunoco?????