FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ?

jmcarter · 01-30-2019, 09:22 AM

Think it's a big boost for the FS/XX owners, particularly those west of the Mississippi. Comp is the top of the pyramid in sportsman racing IMHO and while they are a "unique" bunch of characters their innovation, hard work and passion is amazing. Believe they will welcome the new classes, bigger fields is better for all of them. Will be tough against the 8.47 index but is worth a shot. The 8.75 index for Hemi cars will make that even tougher but again, worth a shot. Would assume the personal indexing for Comp would not apply when they compete in their 'other' eliminators.

Bucky Hess · 01-30-2019, 09:56 AM

I was all for it, but that index is not fair to start. So I don't think they are helping comp

Spyphish · 01-30-2019, 10:22 AM

Why not go all in. Slant the carbs and 5 speeds. 8.90 index would help.

Do we still run class in comp? or at USNATS?

MFR440 · 01-30-2019, 10:40 AM

From a fan's perspective, I don't want to have to sit through Comp to watch the SS/AH cars. On top of that, they give an index that will make them unable to compete - it's not like they don't know what these cars will run...as usual, I don't get what they are doing.

Cody Lane · 01-30-2019, 10:54 AM

This is great news as I have heard of potentially a few cars on the West Coast running the FS/SM class.

Maybe Bucky Hess or others can weigh in on this, as I haven't had a chance to look at the actual weight breaks / rules, but is the AS/SM the exact same rules as SS/AH? Index does seem a little hard if so....

Either way, I applaud NHRA as this may help some of the car counts and again shows the diversity of Comp - mixing some of the highly touted Hemi cars and the new FS cars, with the wide variety of everything else in Comp. Should be fun!

Cody Lane
SS/BS 601
Hancock & Lane Racing

RonP · 01-30-2019, 12:00 PM

Hopefully it will help the car count for Comp at some of the national events. I asked this question to several of my friends that race Comp in D3 last year at Norwalk (addition of FS/XX) and they were in favor of the idea to help out car counts.
Ron

Dyno · 01-30-2019, 12:01 PM

It is a start, but the index at 8.75 needs to be bumped up, no one has a chance of getting out of the 1st round. Would the FS cars be able to run a bigger tire? At least you could enter the Gators, lots of room left in Comp😁

Carguy49 · 01-30-2019, 12:17 PM

I like the idea. The index should be a little higher for each of the classes. Maybe 8.90 for the Hemi cars and 8.60 for the Factory cars. Just an idea.

Chuck Norton · 01-30-2019, 01:18 PM

Wonder if this pairing had any effect on the decision?

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
7947 Bill O'Connor 7167 Ryan Priddy
E1 ****WINNER**** 0.125 16.434 78.95 0.011 8.879 107.04
EF/S Dial: 16.46 (+/-): -0.026 FS/AA Dial: 9.39 (+/-): -0.511
Qualified: #8 16.511 -0.939 #37 8.592 -0.808

Bucky Hess · 01-30-2019, 01:45 PM

I called div 1 director to thank him for getting an index in comp , but explained that it was to hard even in mineshaft we could barely go .5 under . And he said "We don't want to bring in new classes and scare off existing comp racers. Hemi cars still have SS where most Comp cars dont have a different category to go to".I was hoping if it was higher a bunch of ah guys could support and save comp. but I guess they really don't want us or need us. nhra is clueless

01-30-2019, 09:22 AM	#1
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,293 Likes: 2,364 Liked 3,165 Times in 969 Posts	Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ? Think it's a big boost for the FS/XX owners, particularly those west of the Mississippi. Comp is the top of the pyramid in sportsman racing IMHO and while they are a "unique" bunch of characters their innovation, hard work and passion is amazing. Believe they will welcome the new classes, bigger fields is better for all of them. Will be tough against the 8.47 index but is worth a shot. The 8.75 index for Hemi cars will make that even tougher but again, worth a shot. Would assume the personal indexing for Comp would not apply when they compete in their 'other' eliminators. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

01-30-2019, 09:56 AM	#2
Bucky Hess Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bunker Hill Posts: 182 Likes: 69 Liked 151 Times in 23 Posts	Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ? I was all for it, but that index is not fair to start. So I don't think they are helping comp __________________ Bucky Hess 1426 SS/AH

01-30-2019, 10:40 AM	#4
MFR440 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 112 Likes: 6 Liked 13 Times in 5 Posts	Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ? From a fan's perspective, I don't want to have to sit through Comp to watch the SS/AH cars. On top of that, they give an index that will make them unable to compete - it's not like they don't know what these cars will run...as usual, I don't get what they are doing. __________________ Meyer Family Racing (re-tired) 1965 Dodge Coronet - Steet car and Part-time N/SS 1962 Plymouth Fury S/ST #3384 - Race in Peace, Craig Meyer

01-30-2019, 10:54 AM	#5
Cody Lane Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 45 Likes: 14 Liked 18 Times in 8 Posts	Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ? This is great news as I have heard of potentially a few cars on the West Coast running the FS/SM class. Maybe Bucky Hess or others can weigh in on this, as I haven't had a chance to look at the actual weight breaks / rules, but is the AS/SM the exact same rules as SS/AH? Index does seem a little hard if so.... Either way, I applaud NHRA as this may help some of the car counts and again shows the diversity of Comp - mixing some of the highly touted Hemi cars and the new FS cars, with the wide variety of everything else in Comp. Should be fun! Cody Lane SS/BS 601 Hancock & Lane Racing

01-30-2019, 12:00 PM	#6
RonP Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Detroit,MI Posts: 81 Likes: 28 Liked 29 Times in 14 Posts	Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ? Hopefully it will help the car count for Comp at some of the national events. I asked this question to several of my friends that race Comp in D3 last year at Norwalk (addition of FS/XX) and they were in favor of the idea to help out car counts. Ron

01-30-2019, 10:22 AM	#3
Spyphish Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 846 Likes: 16 Liked 679 Times in 180 Posts	Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ? Why not go all in. Slant the carbs and 5 speeds. 8.90 index would help. Do we still run class in comp? or at USNATS?

01-30-2019, 12:01 PM	#7
Dyno Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 915 Likes: 1,129 Liked 680 Times in 203 Posts	Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ? It is a start, but the index at 8.75 needs to be bumped up, no one has a chance of getting out of the 1st round. Would the FS cars be able to run a bigger tire? At least you could enter the Gators, lots of room left in Comp😁

01-30-2019, 12:17 PM	#8
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,971 Likes: 2,445 Liked 2,920 Times in 701 Posts	Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ? I like the idea. The index should be a little higher for each of the classes. Maybe 8.90 for the Hemi cars and 8.60 for the Factory cars. Just an idea. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends.

01-30-2019, 01:18 PM	#9
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 473 Likes: 104 Liked 81 Times in 18 Posts	Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ? Wonder if this pairing had any effect on the decision? Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed 7947 Bill O'Connor 7167 Ryan Priddy E1 **WINNER** 0.125 16.434 78.95 0.011 8.879 107.04 EF/S Dial: 16.46 (+/-): -0.026 FS/AA Dial: 9.39 (+/-): -0.511 Qualified: #8 16.511 -0.939 #37 8.592 -0.808 __________________ Chuck Norton

01-30-2019, 01:45 PM	#10
Bucky Hess Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bunker Hill Posts: 182 Likes: 69 Liked 151 Times in 23 Posts	Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ? I called div 1 director to thank him for getting an index in comp , but explained that it was to hard even in mineshaft we could barely go .5 under . And he said "We don't want to bring in new classes and scare off existing comp racers. Hemi cars still have SS where most Comp cars dont have a different category to go to".I was hoping if it was higher a bunch of ah guys could support and save comp. but I guess they really don't want us or need us. nhra is clueless __________________ Bucky Hess 1426 SS/AH Last edited by Bucky Hess; 01-30-2019 at 02:45 PM.

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