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Old 09-04-2018, 10:17 AM   #1
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I'm still waiting for Mr. Fuller to tell his story. Inquiring minds want to know.

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Old 09-04-2018, 10:39 AM   #2
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Good tech inspectors have quit because after catching a racer with a blatant illegal modification the higher ups make a decision that over rides the tech guy.
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Good tech inspectors have quit because after catching a racer with a blatant illegal modification the higher ups make a decision that over rides the tech guy.
This is a big part of it right here. It's a thankless job
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Old 09-04-2018, 11:09 AM   #4
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In the good old days, I remember they "sealed" motors by spray painting critical nuts and bolts with a certain color paint which varied every event. I recall that many enterprising racers kept a supply of different colored spray paints so they could mess with their cars and then "re-seal" the motor. lol
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in the good old days, i remember they "sealed" motors by spray painting critical nuts and bolts with a certain color paint which varied every event. I recall that many enterprising racers kept a supply of different colored spray paints so they could mess with their cars and then "re-seal" the motor. Lol
true statement there !!!!!!!
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Another true statement........I can vouch for that !
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I'm still waiting for Mr. Fuller to tell his story. Inquiring minds want to know.

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I will get to it probably later than sooner. Here is a little tidbit to give you an idea. We were told to be at the tear down garage at 8:00. I was there at about 7:58. Mike Pulstelney show up a few minutes later. There was also a Drag Pak car there about the same time. Don Carson showed up around 9:00. In years past he would have been DQed right then. I am correct with this statement?
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I will get to it probably later than sooner. Here is a little tidbit to give you an idea. We were told to be at the tear down garage at 8:00. I was there at about 7:58. Mike Pulstelney show up a few minutes later. There was also a Drag Pak car there about the same time. Don Carson showed up around 9:00. In years past he would have been DQed right then. I am correct with this statement?
Which car was the original protest filed against?
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I will get to it probably later than sooner. Here is a little tidbit to give you an idea. We were told to be at the tear down garage at 8:00. I was there at about 7:58. Mike Pulstelney show up a few minutes later. There was also a Drag Pak car there about the same time. Don Carson showed up around 9:00. In years past he would have been DQed right then. I am correct with this statement?

Mike,


Sorry if you feel we were a little late. We had to go to harbor freight to buy an engine stand. I was told to be there in the morning and that we were pulling cranks along with rod and piston. You should know because you filled out the protest sheet, being you were the one who protested us. This was not a NHRA tear down, this was a protest tear down of specific parts that you requested.


Never met you before, we've never raced you before, still do not quite understand your reasoning for the protest in the first place. We showed up and we tore down and we were 100% legal. As for the oil pan you questioned, look on the approved product list and you will see Stef's Oil Pan part #1442. As for the windows even Mike D. from Ford Performance sent NHRA an email on it and the reply back to him was the are 100% legal. They have been approved for over 6 years now, if you like I can send an original copy of the email from 6 years ago with NHRA's approval.


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Old 09-04-2018, 02:30 PM   #10
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Well Jim first let me tell you a little about myself. I started racing Stock in 1983. It took me a full season before I could run the index in my 1969 B/SA Camaro. I did most of my own machining and all of my own assembly. Holbrook Racing did all the things that I did not have the equipment to do. In 1991 I set the record in C/SA at the Rockingham Invitational. After I made the backup pass and was weighed and fuel checked the national event tech director told me to pull the car over by the scales and to bring my tools so they could observe me disassemble the motor. In 1992 I was the TRW (Jegs now) division 3 Stock representative. The race was held at National Trails outside of Columbus Ohio. After the first qualifying pass we were sealed up ( Carb to intake. Intake to cylinder head. #4 plug sealed to the head.) We had to be torn the next day at noon in the middle of the pits by the scales. If any of the seals were broken we would be DQed. In 1993 after winning C/SA class at the Southern Nationals I was selected again for tear down and had to put the car in a designated area and Ron Cook was assigned to observe me.during the entire process. BTW Tom Rhoda who helped me tear down won that race with a 427 that I built for him. At the Spring Nationals that year I won the Spring Nationals with a.000 light and also won B/SA class at Indy that same year.

You on the other hand you got to show up for inspection an hour late with the intake and throttle body off the motor. There was no trans in your car. If you want to question or deny this I have a number of witness that will back me up. I felt very violated by this. During the inspection I had to go to my trailer for some tools. I fell off my Spree and had to go to the first aid station for some minor repair. On my way back from there I came across Bruce B and told him how you showed up. His response was " That's Bull$hit!" He then apologized to me and said that he was very busy and was unable to supervise the situation.


We protested Don's car because you have caused both combination's (2013 and 2014) to be hit with horsepower without the usual teardown. In Division 3 if a car goes quick enough for that combination to get HP Traves Miller will conducted a technical inspection. I as well as all of my fellow division 3 stock and super stock racers will back me up on this.


One last note about this protest. I was not the only one to put up the required money for this. In fact stock racers from other divisions contributed.


Enjoy your day
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