Denver

[340Cuda]

I have never raced at the Denver track but have been there several times as a spectator, and will be there Sunday for the finals.

In my opinion it is a very nice track, I really like being able to walk out of the pits into the top of the grandstands.

That being said, I fully understand the short fields in Stock and Super Stock. The distance from the starting line is one thing but not unique. Given the configuration, cut into the side of a mountain not much else they can do. However as pointed out the Stock and Super Stock pits are dirty and dusty.

The owners certainly are not afraid to spend money, geez who else has a starting line surface that can be cooled or heated as necessary.

They are astute business people so my only guess is that they don't think there would be a return on their investment.

My plan after the race is to write a polite letter and copy NHRA that I am a Stock/Super Stock fan and I was disappointed by the low car count and tell them why I think few folks will come.

I would suggest any of the racers here, that would like to race at Denver and won't do the same thing.

Bill

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by 340Cuda

I have never raced at the Denver track but have been there several times as a spectator, and will be there Sunday for the finals.

In my opinion it is a very nice track, I really like being able to walk out of the pits into the top of the grandstands.

That being said, I fully understand the short fields in Stock and Super Stock. The distance from the starting line is one thing but not unique. Given the configuration, cut into the side of a mountain not much else they can do. However as pointed out the Stock and Super Stock pits are dirty and dusty.

The owners certainly are not afraid to spend money, geez who else has a starting line surface that can be cooled or heated as necessary.

They are astute business people so my only guess is that they don't think there would be a return on their investment.

My plan after the race is to write a polite letter and copy NHRA that I am a Stock/Super Stock fan and I was disappointed by the low car count and tell them why I think few folks will come.

I would suggest any of the racers here, that would like to race at Denver and won't do the same thing.

Bill

To answer your question, Galot Motorsports Park here in Division2 has heated and cooled starting line. Denver looks like a cool place, I would like to run but I will have to wait until my retirement years most likely. Its a bit of a tow from here on the East coast!

[Andys dad]

The one time I was there - I thought my Altronic computer broke but it was just had trouble with a DA over 10,000 ft.

[Rat Raceway]

If you can go fast here, you can go fast anywhere. 10k DA is one heck of a hoop to jump through. Nice to see some others like this place like myself.

[TOM KASCH]

Staging Lanes at Denver from a trip we took in 2015:

[Racesaspen]

Same story every year, same people bitch about how horrible it is. So your car slows down, it's the same for everyone, big deal. As far as the pits perhaps they should just completely level off the mountain, would that do it for you? The Bandimere's are good people and like it or not owning a track is a business. They spent tons of money and time trying to relocate by the airport and were shot down. If I recall they can't add permanent restrooms for some reason, but I could be wrong. Not too many of you out there don't have big motorhomes with bathrooms and air conditioners anyway. What I wouldn't do to still be out there competing to WIN but health reasons wont allow it anymore. I just wanted to RACE no matter what, sleeping in my truck and an old open trailer. No track is perfect, people always find something to bitch about.

[Paul Wong]

I can tell you I have been to a lot worse places. The pits and staging lanes are all downhill even though its a drive. Those of us that have been going there for some time was spoiled by the treatment of the 80s 90s and early 2000s where you ate and drank for free for 4 days on Mopars dime.

I did not know air meters went to 5 digits until I saw over 10,000 feet come up on the screen. You just have to get used to leaving in what feels like second gear.

Bottom line is we can keep complaining until we are out of race tracks. Times are not what they used to be and I'm pretty sure they will never be that way again. I would not steer someone away from going there. The altitude adjusted ETs are all relative.

[HR9121]

Very good post Mr Wong, I would think someone who is accustomed to running at sea level like myself would have a great time trying to find the tree with a car reacting in such a different manner. I was looking at Q1 times and I know a few cars there, I was comparing their ET to what I normally see those cars run. About 8 tenths slower than normal I think, so I can see where a guy would think he's leaving in 2cd gear lol.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Paul Wong

I can tell you I have been to a lot worse places. The pits and staging lanes are all downhill even though its a drive. Those of us that have been going there for some time was spoiled by the treatment of the 80s 90s and early 2000s where you ate and drank for free for 4 days on Mopars dime.

I did not know air meters went to 5 digits until I saw over 10,000 feet come up on the screen. You just have to get used to leaving in what feels like second gear.

Bottom line is we can keep complaining until we are out of race tracks. Times are not what they used to be and I'm pretty sure they will never be that way again. I would not steer someone away from going there. The altitude adjusted ETs are all relative.

Paul, I could (and will hopefully next month), shake your hand/high Five you, or fist bump you for saying that about "complaining until we are out of race tracks". Next month those of us in D7, D6, & D5 may have our last chance to attend a points race at one of (if not) the second highest elevation drag strip holding divisionals....Rocky Mountain Raceway, in West Valley City, Utah! I've been working my butt off to comfortably secure the funds I'll need to partake in those two races, because I hope I (and everyone else who shows up there), leave a lasting impression on what Salt Lake City's about to lose, by letting this track go and not having a replacement track in line for 2019 onward!

If D7 doesn't get another pair of tracks of similar distance (or closer) to Phoenix, then I'll be putting Bandimere Speedway on my schedule for future points races (and or Boise), because it'll be easier to get to either of those tracks, than going to either Sonoma or Fallon (if they get one of the two races back?). I miss the Bandimere's, great people, and Larry Crisp is one of the best track preparer's there is in all of racing, and I've had a lot of fun, success, and good times up there, throughout my now 43yrs in drag racing, and they were the representative source of my (so far) three championships! I've had many more good memories there than I could ever have bad, and I even went door to door back in Y2k in the ill-fated attempt to have Bandimere Speedway relocated out near D.I.A. east of Aurora, Co. Once that effort failed (mostly thanks to that joke of a NASCAR track south of Colorado Springs, that hasn't existed for much past 2000 anyway, and never had a major NASCAR race there anyway!), that's when I started exploring relocating, so I could be closer to more points races/national events for my more meager budget, but I'll still go to Bandimere when I can, because of their family, the track itself, and definitely the staging lanes/cool down island(s).

I'm glad that housing developers told people who wanted to buy homes near there, that if they were going to buy a house near that track, they had to sign some form claiming that they won't complain about the noise from the track, or they would have to live somewhere else farther away, because they're not ruining a stable source of revenue for the town of Morrison, or the nearby suburbs of Golden, Lakewood, and Littleton (not to mention Denver as well)!

I hope the Mile High Nationals are great, wish I was there, and God Bless all who are with good times, safe runs, and WIN LIGHTS!!!!

[Mile High]

Originally Posted by Racesaspen

If I recall they can't add permanent restrooms for some reason, but I could be wrong. .

I always heard they wanted the city of Morrison to annex them into the city limit then the city would have to put in the sewer and water for facilities.

Raced there many years and the downhill staging lanes will spoil you.

Jeff