Proposal and NHRA and IHRA Responses

So does that mean anybody that has a fast car writes a check? I'd like to know who that might be? My car is not all world fast, but its respectable. I built and maintain 90% myself. I know there are many who do the same. People buy engines now a days, but they have done it for years. How much work do you do on your car?

Basically the guy who drove a car for someone that he had nothing to do with building or paying for it wanted to suggest changing the rules for fairness? Then accuses other racers of writing a check to make their car fast? What a joke, SMH.

Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen

I think I understand the performance part of it (how it use to be when you worked hard to get the performance and not just write a check for it). I only posted that because that's what I heard and still hear the most in the pits and staging lanes....is how to avoid a heads up race. I am all in favor of having class eliminations at events to reward those that can afford a fast car. I very much like having a class with stock appearing cars and that's one of the main reasons I got involved with Stock. I would have only been kidding myself if I thought I could afford to be competitive in heads up rounds. If you think Stock and Super Stock should be about performance, then they should change it back to running off indexes but I'd guess the classes would die in a hurry and I'm guessing that's why it was changed away from that. I know my thoughts are not worth much because I'm relatively new in Stock and I'm a "bracket guy" and that's OK. As near as I can figure it costs me an average of about $1,000.00 to participate at an NHRA Divisional or National event. If a heads up round costs me a couple races I'll be done with travelling very far, if at all to attend those events to race Stock. Either way I've very much enjoyed racing in Stock the last couple of years. I've met a LOT of great guys and girls doing it and will always treasure that. Thanks.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen

I think I understand the performance part of it (how it use to be when you worked hard to get the performance and not just write a check for it). I only posted that because that's what I heard and still hear the most in the pits and staging lanes....is how to avoid a heads up race. I am all in favor of having class eliminations at events to reward those that can afford a fast car. I very much like having a class with stock appearing cars and that's one of the main reasons I got involved with Stock. I would have only been kidding myself if I thought I could afford to be competitive in heads up rounds. If you think Stock and Super Stock should be about performance, then they should change it back to running off indexes but I'd guess the classes would die in a hurry and I'm guessing that's why it was changed away from that. I know my thoughts are not worth much because I'm relatively new in Stock and I'm a "bracket guy" and that's OK. As near as I can figure it costs me an average of about $1,000.00 to participate at an NHRA Divisional or National event. If a heads up round costs me a couple races I'll be done with travelling very far, if at all to attend those events to race Stock. Either way I've very much enjoyed racing in Stock the last couple of years. I've met a LOT of great guys and girls doing it and will always treasure that. Thanks.

The difference between you and Todd Hoven is that if he gets beat in a few heads up runs he goes backs to the drawing board , works on the car ,etc,etc, You,on the other hand will be done with traveling very far. Stock eliminator is NOT for everyone. Us OLD guys don't appreciate it when you newbies try to DUMB it down to fit your agenda. Kinda like a college basketball player entering the NBA and asking the commissioner to move the 3 point line closer to the basket....LOL.....

[Nmbr1GMfan]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

No body should ever be abusive.
but you were pounding the drum of no heads up and it would be a real race. People feel strongly about the performance end of our classes. When a bracket guy comes in and starts putting forward that adjenda, he is going to ( and should get some heat )

The appeal of class to me is for the heads up.

[Ed Carpenter]

I've had some email saying you have to have a 100k car to qualify in the top 10. You're proposal is for the rich. Well, I dont think that's true. I know several racers that can qualify in the top 10 that dont have nearly that much in their car. After 11 years we are finally getting our car to run decent. We've had the power with Allen's engine but could never put it all together. We are close to -.90 under now and working for more. Can we ever get in the top 10 in qualifying that remains to be seen. We will find out soon enough. Thanks for all those who support my proposals, I appreciate it. Ed

[Rich67stang]

I have a low qualifying stocker, Which is a stick car, And I still agree with making S/SS
Performance based as Ed has suggested. My Superstocker is fast, but I have it turned WAY down on RPM because it is useless to beat up the motor for no reason, based on current racing rules. I always want to go faster, but Then I tell myself why bother, other than self EGO.

Good Luck Ed and everyone else who is committed to making S/SS the best it can.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter

Got 3 more hate emails today. I won't use their language here. One said getting points for records is the stupidest idea ever and if they came into play for a championship the that championship would be tainted. Another one said you can't combine sticks and autos because sticks still have a huge advantage. The last one was just filled with hate speech that I should get out of SS period. He is a fellow racer that everyone knows.

Ed,
Ignore them.

Originally Posted by alan roehrich

ed,
ignore them.

x2!

[Superfan1]

Excellent proposal Ed, well conceived and well written.

[Ed Carpenter]

Getting a lot of supportive emails. Please email Graham Light and Glen Gray your thoughts on this. Without the support of the racers they will not make changes.

[Nmbr1GMfan]

Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter

Getting a lot of supportive emails. Please email Graham Light and Glen Gray your thoughts on this. Without the support of the racers they will not make changes.

I would but I don't believe at this point my limited knowlede of class would help anyone, I'm learning as much as I can. I do appreciate your efforts though.