09 challenger

[Tim F]

Mr Beard.Let me tell you how supportive mopar is.I been dealing with mopar about 25 years.To date Mopar still has not sent me a set of stage 5 castings they told me they were sending.Had some problems with the castings and ruined a SS engine.Talked with mclaren/dart in canada who does the cnc work for mopar about the problems.The ball got dropped at mopars david hakim's desk,ever here of him?Yes we have talked to mopars jon clark before.Big jack brought him by at the gators just after i won class at the gators.He wanted imput on how to improve mopars relations with the racers,seeing how bad david was at it.I thought man finally we got someone up there we can call again.Before the year was out it was apparent jon was infected with the same mentality and evasiveness as hakim.At the pri show jon demonstrates is evasive skills again and doesn't want to talk to racers.We wanted to talk to jon about the new challenger,a body in white program,factory support,ETC.The SS challenger he said was a limited run and that was about it.probably there only for car collectors or someone in the click.After competing with 2 70 challengers for about 15 years A/SA and SS/FA you would think we would be considered.It looks like there are no deals on the new challenger,no factory support,or mabey just to us who knows.Hell you can even buy a v6 cheap challenger to make a race car out of.Ask jon about there aluminum 452 head and how they dropped the ball.If mopar got with edelbrock and made the combustion chamber like a stock head and stock valve size we might be able to get it approved for use in nhra stock/superstock.chevy and ford got theres.Mopar wont even supply stock valve size stage 5 castings we use in SS,only the big valve castings.Theres plenty more storys but you see how supportive mopar is,NOT AT ALL.As fas as cerburs goes dont look for anything from them,they manage several companies(bean counters).Mabey you crate motor car guys are getting support.Mabey you will get new challengers but we'll just keep our old ones.......Tim&Jim

[Brandon Peterson]

i think i just went crosseyed

[Brandon Peterson]

Maybe Tim Ilderton and Ilderton Dodge where i work will get a s/ss car and let me race it...I should ask

[Jeff Lee]

I heard that as of last month MOPAR had not even commited to pay contingencies for 2008. True or false?

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by Tim F

Mabey you will get new challengers but we'll just keep our old ones.......Tim&Jim

lol "Getting" a new Challenger to race can only be wishful thinking for me. Even if the opportunity would be available, I don't have the time or money to 100% guarantee a full schedule commitment to IHRA, and even less to NHRA. And that doesn't even include the R&D required for a brand new combination. I'm doing well to keep my "old" Dart Sport going from year to year. But I am slowly working on another one as a replacement.

I actually started building a Challenger crate motor combo in '98. But prices of E-body parts and a few rule changes forced me out of it.

As far as the contingency program is concerned, commitments always seem late in coming. I've been to IHRA races where the list hasn't been complete yet. However, I have heard of changes within the Mopar program which concern me. But I don't know all the details and can't confirm anything, so I won't comment further.