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Old 12-08-2016, 01:21 PM   #1
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Default Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017

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The following are the Preliminary Rules package for 2017 NMCA S3 Eliminator: If you have any suggest or ideas with this rules set please forward to NMCArules@promediapub.com

NMCA Stock/Super Stock Combo (S/SS)

S3

Class Description
S/SS is a handicap brake out eliminator based off of all NHRA and IHRA Stock and Super Stock classes. With the exception of any current combination that is eligible to participate in NMCA Super Car eliminator will not be eligible to participate in S/SS Combo.

Qualifying Information, Ladder Type, & Tree
All run qualified field on a sportsman type ladder. The class will qualify based off of current posted indexes from NHRA and IHRA. Eliminations will be run on a 5 tenths full tree; 64 cars or less will be laddered first round, over 64 cars will be random paired first round and laddered second round based off of first round eliminations. All dial-ins must be under the currently posted indexes for all NHRA / IHRA Stock and Super Stock class combinations. All qualifiers in S/SS must have a valid elapsed time recorded to be placed into eliminator competition. During eliminations when identical class combinations are paired the dial-in for both competitors will be based off of the faster qualified car and bumped by 1 tenth of a second, brake out still in effect.

RULES
All rules and classification will be based off the current year NHRA and IHRA rules and classification guide with the exception of; Fuel Check and Weight will not be a technical requirement. All NHRA Safety rules will be in effect. No modifications, which alter the car from factory stock, are permitted unless they are specifically allowed in NHRA / IHRA rules, or as authorized by the NMCA rules committee. Competitors will be required to have a valid NMCA Membership and permanent number, number can be their current NHRA or IHRA number as long as it does not duplicate another competitors number, in those cases NMCA will issue a number as close as possible to one of the competitors current number.



CREDENTIALS
A Valid state or government issued driver’s license beyond a learner/s permit level mandatory for cars running 10.00 or slower. A Valid NHRA competition license is mandatory for cars running 9.99 or quicker, at an NHRA Member Track. NHRA/IHRA competition license mandatory at an IHRA Member Track.
Note: It is ultimately the competitor’s responsibility to familiarize themselves with the NMCA class requirements as well as all NHRA safety requirements. The competitor agrees they bear the ultimate responsibility when it comes to safety and how it complies with the NMRA and NHRA rule books. The competitor also agrees that no one else other than the competitor is in the best position to know about how their particular race car has been constructed and how to safely operate it.

Appearance:
In order to be eligible for the NMCA official contingency program, all contingency sponsors’ decals must be easily visible and located on the outside of the vehicle on the rear quarter windows or rear window in a clear and organized fashion. Contingency decals may not be overlapped or modified. Other decals and sponsors may appear on bodywork, front end and on windows. Failure to do so can result in the driver forfeiting all claimed contingencies for that particular event. The NMCA does require all entries to run the following decals:
1. NMCA Windshield Banner: Decal needs to be located on the top of the windshield or just above the windshield located on the body.
2. NMCA Drag Racing Series: Decals (2) must be located on each side of vehicle. Either on the side windows or decals can be located on the body right beside the side windows.
3. Class Sponsor: Decal must be located on the passenger’s side lower portion of the windshield.
4. VP Racing Fuels: Official Fuel decals (2) required. Must be located on each side of vehicle. (In a contingency decal manner)
5. Aerospace Winners Circle: Decals (2) must be prominently displayed on each side of vehicle. Failure to do so can result in the winning driver forfeiting his/hers Winner’s Trophy & Payout.
6. Class & Competition Numbers: Numbers must be easily visible/legible and located on the front, back, and both side windows.

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Is there a schedule for 2017? Will s/ss be contested at all NMCA events?
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:25 PM   #2
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Is there a schedule for 2017? Will s/ss be contested at all NMCA events?
Ed,

They have the schedule on the NMCA website, S/SS at all 6 events.

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Old 12-08-2016, 08:49 PM   #3
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So ...you run your car within 1 tenth of flat out in TT... Then you have that tenth in the bank for a heads- up runs .. correct ?...Interesting
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Old 12-08-2016, 10:51 PM   #4
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So ...you run your car within 1 tenth of flat out in TT... Then you have that tenth in the bank for a heads- up runs .. correct ?...Interesting
Jeff, Not sure you are reading it like I am.

Here's what I see:

One A/SA goes 10.60
Another one goes 10.50.
They meet..The dial-in is 10.40.
The slower one goes 10.50 ,with a good light.
The other one goes 10.39. He loses.
Brake (break) -out in effect.
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Old 12-08-2016, 11:15 PM   #5
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Jeff, Not sure you are reading it like I am.

Here's what I see:

One A/SA goes 10.60
Another one goes 10.50.
They meet..The dial-in is 10.40.
The slower one goes 10.50 ,with a good light.
The other one goes 10.39. He loses.
Brake (break) -out in effect.
Mark is correct, as usual....Personally I have never heard of anything like this ?? Just wondering where this comes from ?
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Old 12-09-2016, 12:19 AM   #6
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Mark is correct, as usual....Personally I have never heard of anything like this ?? Just wondering where this comes from ?
Probably to discourage heavy braking at the stripe and sandbagging during qualifying.
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Old 12-09-2016, 10:09 AM   #7
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Mark is correct, as usual....Personally I have never heard of anything like this ?? Just wondering where this comes from ?
My recollections of the dark, dim past of Stock racing suggest that there was once a time when the dial-in for every car was the national record BUT we were allowed to run a dime under the record without breaking out. I'll bet that Mark remembers those days (unless the whole scenario was the result of that extra shot of Jack from last night). It may seem to be an archaic methodology but we had some good racing without all the drama of 1000' shutoffs, packing in extra weight, and sandbagging the ladder.

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My recollections of the dark, dim past of Stock racing suggest that there was once a time when the dial-in for every car was the national record BUT we were allowed to run a dime under the record without breaking out. I'll bet that Mark remembers those days (unless the whole scenario was the result of that extra shot of Jack from last night). It may seem to be an archaic methodology but we had some good racing without all the drama of 1000' shutoffs, packing in extra weight, and sandbagging the ladder.

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Much better racing back then. Hardly ever saw a break out, ditto brake lights.
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:34 AM   #9
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Default Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017

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Mark is correct, as usual....Personally I have never heard of anything like this ?? Just wondering where this comes from ?
Sounds like a "no-sandbagging during qualifying" rule to me.
I also see it being confusing to some racers.

It might somewhat alter the qualifying strategy for some racers, or then again it may not.

Will the fastest in class still qualify using full throttle knowing he has everyone else covered, and that there is no way he would run 1 tenth quicker during eliminations so therefore he can run flat out during eliminations ( in a same class pairing) and not worry about breaking out ?
I say probably.

That's the way I see it
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Jeff, Not sure you are reading it like I am.

Here's what I see:

One A/SA goes 10.60
Another one goes 10.50.
They meet..The dial-in is 10.40.
The slower one goes 10.50 ,with a good light.
The other one goes 10.39. He loses.
Brake (break) -out in effect.
Thanks for posted that Mark
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