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Old 12-06-2016, 08:46 PM   #1
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I'm going to keep my hyd. lifters, solids would be a lot noisier and then I would have to keep them adjusted, and that might..............would cut into my adult beverage time.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:38 AM   #2
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I'm going to keep my hyd. lifters, solids would be a lot noisier and then I would have to keep them adjusted, and that might..............would cut into my adult beverage time.
Ok, I'm a little slow sometimes, I was about to buy some good hyd lifters, can I instead buy solids now? Or just wait till all those hyd lifters hit the for sale page?
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:10 PM   #3
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I'm going to keep my hyd. lifters, solids would be a lot noisier and then I would have to keep them adjusted, and that might..............would cut into my adult beverage time.
X2 on that Larry!!

By the way, since lift will be checked at zero lash but you wouldn't run a solid at zero lash, I assume you have to give up some lift if you change over.
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X2 on that Larry!!

By the way, since lift will be checked at zero lash but you wouldn't run a solid at zero lash, I assume you have to give up some lift if you change over.
Yes, but I don't think you need .006. A lot of older motorcycle exhausts were around .003.
Somebody try and let us know ....
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Please excuse my ignorance. But does this mean we can now run a solid lifter type cam in a hydraulic cam engine. IE a 396 350hp. Or just solid lifters on the hydraulic cam.

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Since any duration is allowed I don't see why someone couldn't grind slight clearance ramps (just a couple thou) into them, but it doesn't seem worth bothering with.
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Yes, but I don't think you need .006. A lot of older motorcycle exhausts were around .003. Somebody try and let us know ....
Mark, this has been done for decades on high perf street engines.

You can be down around .002 (hot) with a solid lifter on a 'hydraulic' cam lobe. Basically, as close to '0' as you can without hanging the valves open. A good rule of thumb.... on a typical iron head/iron block setup, you need around .003 more lash 'cold' than what you want it at 'hot' to allow for expansion. ie: .006 cold will get you .003 hot.

Iron block/alum. heads & alum. block/alum. heads expand differently than iron block/iron head, of course.
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