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Old 11-28-2016, 11:39 PM   #1
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In the 12 years since I put a stick in mine other than class run offs I've had one heads up race. There are very few G/S cars. The odds are very slim you will have a heads up. Put it together and go out and have fun.
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Old 11-29-2016, 01:15 AM   #2
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You need to be about -1.0 to be competitive in heads up, but as Bob said you should be able to go have fun without worrying about having a heads up every race you go to. Just make your weight where you can change classes if you need to, which will allow you to get in the class that has the least or no cars for the time being.
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:31 AM   #3
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In the 12 years since I put a stick in mine other than class run offs I've had one heads up race. There are very few G/S cars. The odds are very slim you will have a heads up. Put it together and go out and have fun.
Not too many heads-up match ups in F or G stick in D1, either. As long as you can run the index or better, you are in the eliminator. Class run-offs are another story. Finish it and get some seat time. Like Bob said, have fun.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:49 AM   #4
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In the 12 years since I put a stick in mine other than class run offs I've had one heads up race. There are very few G/S cars. The odds are very slim you will have a heads up. Put it together and go out and have fun.
I can't over state what Bob is saying........there are people that can't sleep at night because they spent their last dime to be a tenth faster, we don't need any more drama in class racing, if you are a hobby sportsman enjoy being that, keep the money in your pocket and spend it on a nice steak with some friends after qualifying.
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Old 11-29-2016, 01:11 PM   #5
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I can't over state what Bob is saying........there are people that can't sleep at night because they spent their last dime to be a tenth faster, we don't need any more drama in class racing, if you are a hobby sportsman enjoy being that, keep the money in your pocket and spend it on a nice steak with some friends after qualifying.
Now, I think THAT's some good advice right there !
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i can't over state what bob is saying........there are people that can't sleep at night because they spent their last dime to be a tenth faster, we don't need any more drama in class racing, if you are a hobby sportsman enjoy being that, keep the money in your pocket and spend it on a nice steak with some friends after qualifying.
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Old 11-29-2016, 01:39 PM   #7
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If it will run index, be consistent and you can cut a light you are ready to spend the money to enter a divisional or national. Otherwise you are only wasting your money to enter a race. Test, test, test until you have the car and you sorted out. If you run into a heads up so be it, otherwise why build a class car? If the car, clutch and trans are setup right you can be consistent too.

Good luck and have fun!
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Old 11-29-2016, 01:50 PM   #8
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Don't forget about the Sports Nationals they only take the fastest 128 in stock and super stock.
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As Larry indicated plus the Vegas Divisional in November had a full field and some pretty quick cars were on the sideline after qualifying...but if you're in Tampa then Vegas might not be in your plans. One big advantage of a stick combo is the lower likelihood of a heads up but in any case if you plan on going up to Bristol in the heat then you better be .4 under in order to run the index (no altitude adjustment for Bristol anymore). World of difference in cost to build a .2-.3 under car than a 1.0 under one.
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As Larry indicated plus the Vegas Divisional in November had a full field and some pretty quick cars were on the sideline after qualifying...but if you're in Tampa then Vegas might not be in your plans. One big advantage of a stick combo is the lower likelihood of a heads up but in any case if you plan on going up to Bristol in the heat then you better be .4 under in order to run the index (no altitude adjustment for Bristol anymore). World of difference in cost to build a .2-.3 under car than a 1.0 under one.
^^ I agree.

I calculated the cost ( including the cost of the car itself) to get my newer model Mustang to run 2 tenths under the K/SA index.
Then I added up all the "good stuff" needed to run 9 tenths under and it doubled the price.
7 tenths doubled the cost
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