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Old 11-13-2016, 08:57 AM   #1
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Pro Stock is dead and the NHRA is going to pull the plug on it as we currently know it within 5 years.
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Hopefully Alex Prusiensky stays with it for a while.
The engine now in Alan's car was purchased from Elite. He didn't qualify at Vegas with it and is #16 at Pomona, .023 slower than #15. He's got a long way to go and lots of $ to spend before he is competitive.

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Old 11-13-2016, 10:21 AM   #2
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MOPAR needs to get off that Hemi crap, and develope a decent cylinder head. Low air flow = low power.
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Old 11-13-2016, 10:43 AM   #3
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You can't fix Pro Stock.

1. Ford and Chrysler don't really want to play.

2. NHRA has no idea what they're doing.

3. You can't outlaw extreme spending.

4. The cars do not remotely resemble production street cars anymore.

5. Fans that are catered to are interested in fuel cars.


But boy, fuel injection sure did help, didn't it? And the hood scoop rule, and the parking rule, and the wheelie bar rule ........
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Old 11-13-2016, 11:01 AM   #4
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IMHO, Factory Stock = 21st Century Pro Stock! And all of the Manufacturers want to play.
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Old 11-13-2016, 12:12 PM   #5
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NHRA will not be bothered with Pro Stock that requires weight breaks, factors, or other adjustments.

The 500 cubic inch 2350 pound version of Pro Stock is actually the most healthy and most sustainable over time.

Some of the money can be negated by common sense rules. Take them back to a 14"x32" slick. A body template rule with reasonable scoop and spoiler limits, which will also make them look like factory cars. Modify the EFI rule and take the throttle body size down. Get rid of some exotic materials.

Factory Stock works now because it is something like the old muscle car wars, where the customers are absorbing the costs of development to a large degree ($100K per car makes it somewhat affordable to amortize it when most of what changes is just the engine). Even better, no insurance problems or government safety and emission regulations.

As soon as you take that to a professional level, the customers don't absorb so much of the cost, they expect parts, cars, and development help. Not only that, they expect new combinations to beat the factors when weight breaks and factors get involved. Not to mention NHRA then has to make the three of them happy with factors, and then you have the nightmare of factoring small engines against big engines, supercharged against normally aspirated, etc.
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Let Pro Stock die. There is nothing STOCK about them anymore. I lost interest many years ago, and I followed the class since it's beginning in 1970.
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Still my favorite class. I don't watch the Fuel cars.
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:52 PM   #8
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Let Pro Stock die. There is nothing STOCK about them anymore. I lost interest many years ago, and I followed the class since it's beginning in 1970.
P/S has just about turned into another sort off funny car show. It was more interesting when the cars were close to stock body and all car brands were in the mix. Know all the owners push the rule book, and the bank book, but it's gotten way out of hand. Case in hand at least the Hemi A/H cars still look like they were produced, and are very interesting to watch.
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IMHO, Factory Stock = 21st Century Pro Stock! And all of the Manufacturers want to play.
Totally agree 100%. Today's pro stock cars look like space ships instead of the models they are supposed to resemble. Body templates used are way too liberal. Factory stockers are more exciting to watch nowadays.
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:16 PM   #10
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Totally agree 100%. Today's pro stock cars look like space ships instead of the models they are supposed to resemble. Body templates used are way too liberal. Factory stockers are more exciting to watch nowadays.
Other than the Camaro & Corvette (Which I don't care for anyway), can you tell the new cars on the street apart, without reading the nameplates? Wife and I were talking about that when we were out today. They all look so much alike anymore. Run them all through a wind tunnel....

It's good, very close heads up racing. MOPAR needs a better cylinder head casting. Get off that small Hemi crap. They used to have a very good wedge casting, Allen Johnson was very fast then.
Hate to see Erica and Jeggie behind like this.
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