Stock/Super Stock At NMCA

[Rich67stang]

IMO, If NMCA wants to increase car count and bring in NHRA/IHRA class cars, the rules need to be so that there is complete cross over. I do not see any class racers readjusting their cars to run the NMCA.

[Mike Keener]

Originally Posted by Rich67stang

IMO, If NMCA wants to increase car count and bring in NHRA/IHRA class cars, the rules need to be so that there is complete cross over. I do not see any class racers readjusting their cars to run the NMCA.

Bingo ...Period...end of story. I totally can't believe the response Rusty got from NMCA. What an absolute joke that response was!

Mk

[HandOverFist]

Both NMCA and NMRA put on spectacular events and always have. They also draw plenty of spectators. I don't see them bending over backwards to accommodate any of us at the expense of their current base. With that being said, by all means participate in the classes which are already liberal in the current rules...a lack of wheelie bars does not affect the majority of Stock Eliminator vehicles.

[T-Bolt Racer]

Steve Baur's response to wheelie bars

I passed your suggestion on.

Unofficially, the fact that we have cars running 210 mph to the eighth without wheelie bars doesn’t bode well for the change.------------------ My thought is if we had tube chassis 4link cars we would not need wheel bars also but we have stock bodies leaf spring cars so the only way to get traction is get the front end off the ground some of the short wheel base cars need them!!!

[HandOverFist]

In reality the only classes we could compete in are NSS and NMC. The NSS crowd are an extremely tight knit and organized bunch and until they themselves begin to clamor for a rule change there will be none...period.

NMC is a little different in that it encourages participation from cars that are representative of street driven machines and in many cases participants actually do drive them on the road. My thoughts are the current crop are having no problems negotiating the track, thus no reason at this time to revise the rules.

I think this thread got off track a bit...it was a simple invite to come participate in a great series of races. NMCA has no problems with car counts or drawing spectators...they certainly would not welcome any undue strife.

[Mike Keener]

Hand over fist...get a grip. Inclusion of faster wheel standing cars will only HELP the cause and won't hurt you slower cars one single bit.

T bolt racer..you obviously have a greater understanding of what's going on.. Your post is right on the money...

Like I said from the beginning I have no problem either way. Either give us wheelie bars in stock...Orrr...include more body styles in NSS where at least we don't have to risk injury to compete..This IS NOT an unreasonable request....

[HandOverFist]

Originally Posted by Mike Keener

Hand over fist...get a grip. Inclusion of faster wheel standing cars will only HELP the cause and won't hurt you slower cars one single bit.

T bolt racer..you obviously have a greater understanding of what's going on.. Your post is right on the money...

Like I said from the beginning I have no problem either way. Either give us wheelie bars in stock...Orrr...include more body styles in NSS where at least we don't have to risk injury to compete..This IS NOT an unreasonable request....

My grip on reality is just fine Mike. Like I said previously, NMC has cars running 9.50 and I have not heard of any revolt due to lack of wheelie bars. You are making requests/demands before even showing up...yes, I consider that to be unreasonable. One could always just enter Open Comp and all your issues would be addressed.

Evan - Thanks for the invite...I have great memories from racing NMCA back in the late 90's in the EFI ranks. I don't think all understand how crowded the events can be and the problems associated with adding another class/event without even knowing possible participation levels.

[MR DERBY CITY]

The fact of the matter is....NMCA does not need us.....The only people that care about Stk/SS is us.....NMCA does not need our constant bickering, our driven agendas, and our holier than thou attitudes....We are more trouble than we are worth......

[Evan Smith]

The guys at NMCA are reasonable and are paying attention. They provide a safe, fun, fair and friendly environment and want to give you a place to race. If you are interested in the NMCA, but feel the rules could be tweaked, I would recommend taking a few minutes of your time and email Gene Bergstrom gbergstrom@promediapub.com.

I'm quite sure a letter expelling why a nose-heavy Stocker on a 9-inch tire needs to carry the front end (hence the need for bars), and will help them understand that a Stocker is different then a 210 mph power adder car that can ramp in the power. Communication would go a long way in helping them understand why bars are necessary, rather than posting that you're not going unless they change a rule. NMCA has invested in these classes, and they have a nice following of racers, but they would love to see NHRA and IHRA racers try their series.

With that, I will be meeting with the NMCA at PRI to discuss having a Stock/Super Stock combo at select events. If this is preferred, rather than joining existing classes, please let me know. Take a look at the NMCA schedule and let me or Gene know what event(s) you could make. Your response could help define the outcome.

Thanks,

Evan

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Evan Smith

The guys at NMCA are reasonable and are paying attention. They provide a safe, fun, fair and friendly environment and want to give you a place to race. If you are interested in the NMCA, but feel the rules could be tweaked, I would recommend taking a few minutes of your time and email Gene Bergstrom gbergstrom@promediapub.com.

I'm quite sure a letter expelling why a nose-heavy Stocker on a 9-inch tire needs to carry the front end (hence the need for bars), and will help them understand that a Stocker is different then a 210 mph power adder car that can ramp in the power. Communication would go a long way in helping them understand why bars are necessary, rather than posting that you're not going unless they change a rule. NMCA has invested in these classes, and they have a nice following of racers, but they would love to see NHRA and IHRA racers try their series.

With that, I will be meeting with the NMCA at PRI to discuss having a Stock/Super Stock combo at select events. If this is preferred, rather than joining existing classes, please let me know. Take a look at the NMCA schedule and let me or Gene know what event(s) you could make. Your response could help define the outcome.

Thanks,

Evan

As posted before in this thread, a combo race is the easiest and the most "new participant friendly " way to go.

Class racers make no changes to their cars or their routine.

Plus, with a combo race the track announcer could "talk-up" the class cars and try to explain to the spectators a little about these cars and what we can and cannot do to them.