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Old 07-12-2016, 05:57 PM   #1
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I don't think that this is correct.............

The top 12 qualifying spots are saved and the times carry over to the 3rd session..

If the class has 20 entries and they all are quicker than #12 he gets pushed back to #20....He can still qualify during the 4th session if he can bump #16 to #17.....

#12 in session #2 has no guarantee to make the field only that his pass will carry over to session #3...

What if session #4 was much quicker (better air, better track) would these cars who ran quicker than #12 not qualify????????????

How would 1st round pairings and lane choice go.....quicker or qualifying #....

What would the final qualifying sheet look like if #17 was quicker than #12????????????????/

#12 only races if he can stay in the top 16.........


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Bob is correct. The top 12 times from Friday only carryover to Saturday. They are not guaranteed. It is possible to get bumped from the field in Q3 and Q4, no matter how quick you've run previously. Admittedly, the top 12 rule isn't as effective as it was in the past with greater car counts, but it is nice to have those four spots open on Saturday, especially when there is Friday night qualifying.
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Old 07-12-2016, 06:31 PM   #2
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You guys can slice it / dice it and defend it.....all you want.
Its a dumb rule.
15. Alan Prusiensky Arcraceengines.com Dart 8.879 147.31
16. Dave River River Racing Cobalt 11.421 203.86
--------- Not Qualified ---------
17. Charlie Westcott Jr. Militia Racing Products Mustan NT
In the old days , even if you missed the setup on Sat. , your spot would carry over from Fri. unless you were bumped out of the last spot , last session , Sat.
What Sundays show SHOULD have looked like , was the 2nd session from Fri. With the exception of Alan P. everyone was at least a 6.80* or better.
No way Wescott gets denied to run the show on Sun.
Dumb rule.
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Old 07-12-2016, 06:47 PM   #3
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What Sundays show SHOULD have looked like , was the 2nd session from Fri. With the exception of Alan P. everyone was at least a 6.80* or better.
This is exactly the reason for the current qualifying method. If someone missed the setup on the best session, they were screwed! None of the other sessions really mattered.

I wouldn't say I love the current rules, but there are arguments to be made in its favor.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:12 PM   #4
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Hi,

Not trying to take anything away from Wescott, but if he had run quicker than a 8.87 he would have made the show..........

I have all the respect in the world for the Wescott's, but they knew the rules for qualifying.....

They are not complaining about not qualifying and I wish them nothing but best in the future.....

Unfortunately the rules are the rules...

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Old 07-13-2016, 07:52 AM   #5
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Bob is correct. The top 12 times from Friday only carryover to Saturday. They are not guaranteed. It is possible to get bumped from the field in Q3 and Q4, no matter how quick you've run previously. Admittedly, the top 12 rule isn't as effective as it was in the past with greater car counts, but it is nice to have those four spots open on Saturday, especially when there is Friday night qualifying.
Anyone know if the Saturday sessions have ever been better than the Friday where the number one qualifier got bumped? Seems rare since the air and track should always be better on Friday night than Saturday afternoon. Maybe since qualifying is done over two days they should average two runs?

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Old 07-13-2016, 09:26 AM   #6
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I think this conversation about qualifying is unique. Here we are on a racing web site which in my opinion a lot of "racers". We are wondering why our sport is diminishing and we can not understand the qualifying procedure. How are spectators going to? KISS.
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Old 07-17-2016, 05:31 PM   #7
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I don't know if this means anything one way or another but I am sure Charlie would have qualified if he car had started for either Q3 or Q4. He had starter/flywheel issues.

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we are on a racing web site which in my opinion a lot of "racers". .
If you think this "conversation" is confusing, try to make sense of that "sentence."

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Old 08-19-2016, 07:02 PM   #9
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Looks like Allen Johnson has found the tune up the past few events.

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