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Old 12-16-2007, 04:10 PM   #1
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I race a SUPERCHARGED MACH 5 that is not in the classification sheets at this time,but I am working on getting a letter that will allow me to race it in A/SA through P/SA depending on how I want.

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Old 12-16-2007, 06:22 PM   #2
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I have run the LS1 cars for 4 years now . And they have been fast . However I can't run with the Div 1 Top stock guys under the current HP ratings. I also don't think I can run with them in A, and we can't out run Hawk in B might have a chance in C so I don't see were the FI cars will dominate.

1969 camaro 396/ 375 aluminum heads NHRA rated 395 plus 20hp 1hp per cubic inch

2002 SS camaro 346/ 325 all aluminum NHRA rated 364 plus 40hp 1.05 hp per cubic inch

and 50 more cubic inches for the 396 That a big disadvantage for the Fi car. Just my .2cents

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Old 12-16-2007, 06:59 PM   #3
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I'm not going to get into ANY kind of arguments with anybody,but telling a Stock racer (that reads the rulebook) that he needs to use the correct venturi size on his carburetor is not really fair when the car in the other lane has fuel injection.Thats all I'm going to say.
Well, if you can have a different venturi size then I want a bigger throttle body.

What a lot of people dont understand is that EFI is basically a carb that you tune with a laptop. If you tune without an air/fuel ratio meter(as i have for the past two years) then you are in the same ballpark as most carb guys. If you use an air/fuel ratio meter then you can tune it in very nicely. But this meter also works all the same with a carb.

If you arent using one, you are just tuning by the seat of your pants.

Also, I would never set the tune up in the computer to pick up ET at a race. Most racers are doing this with shift points, and timing. I can easily drop a few degrees of timing in the laptop, and you carb guys just have to take a few min to turn the distributor.

Give EFI a try once... it is a pain in the *** most of the time. Only 10% of the time do I really have a clue what I am doing.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:48 PM   #4
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The Advantage of the FI cars is not limited to the fuel system. The bigger deal is all the modern efficent parts in the engine. The parts in a LT1 and LS1 are so much better than the agricultural old junk in most ( not all) carb. vehicles. No matter how much you work on it you still have antique cast iron stuff.
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:32 AM   #5
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Default Re: Dommination of FI cars.

I have bitched about fast cars having advantage over slower cars because of redlight advantage.
All I ever heard was build a fast car if you dont like it.
Ok if you think FI has advantage build one you complaining bastards or even up the playing field for slower cars.
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:02 AM   #6
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I have bitched about fast cars having advantage over slower cars because of redlight advantage.
All I ever heard was build a fast car if you dont like it.
Ok if you think FI has advantage build one you complaining bastards or even up the playing field for slower cars.
FIRST OR WORST is only right on a redlight,the slower car shouldn't automatically be the loser !!!
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Old 01-03-2008, 05:05 AM   #7
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Just git rid off heads ups all together then there is no worries. Then you can go racing and not have 2 worry about gitting wacked by a guy with more cash then god even no if it was a dile in race you would b packing his ***..........
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:25 AM   #8
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The FI cars and the "paper cars" are going to rub our nose in it.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:56 AM   #9
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Just git rid off heads ups all together then there is no worries. Then you can go racing and not have 2 worry about gitting wacked by a guy with more cash then god even no if it was a dile in race you would b packing his ***..........
Then you should go bracket racing in lieu of racing in Stock Eliminator. Stock and Super Stock have always been consider performance classes. Although not perfect, let the AHFS do its work to equal the field.
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:47 AM   #10
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I agree, the AFHS will even this out. Keep working on your car, Hit the tree well and don't let out at the 660 mark when you can't win. Make the guy run all out. The FI cars will be brought back in line eventually have paientce. Most of us will not have that many heads
up's. If you do and can't win, buy a ladder book from Berine Cunningham and start avoiding them by playing the ladder. Just my .02 $


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