EPA To Prohibit the Conversion of Street Cars into Race Cars

[House of Darts]

I just took the time to read all 12 pages of posts. I remember back in the mid to late 70's and 80's how the local or state police would roll into a legitimate car show or gathering and go car by car and look for cats, air pumps, plumbing to the carb or air filter and write tickets. Remember that that they were enforcing a Fed law and or a copy cat state law or local ordinance.There is a resurgence in automobiles and racing. Less regulation! Less intrusion! Less intervention! Every year new laws and new taxes. Is life getting easier?

[CMcAllister]

Originally Posted by House of Darts

I just took the time to read all 12 pages of posts. I remember back in the mid to late 70's and 80's how the local or state police would roll into a legitimate car show or gathering and go car by car and look for cats, air pumps, plumbing to the carb or air filter and write tickets. Remember that that they were enforcing a Fed law and or a copy cat state law or local ordinance.There is a resurgence in automobiles and racing. Less regulation! Less intrusion! Less intervention! Every year new laws and new taxes. Is life getting easier?

Does anyone doubt that state authorities would come to a race track or car show and seize the opportunity to do the same thing on bracket, Stock and Super Stock cars that were originally street legal? Especially in certain states in the Northeast and on the west coast? And especially once they found out it was easy pickins to create a substantial revenue score? EPA could and would give them the legal standing and coerce them to do so. It's not like there isn't a history of that happening already in other enforcement efforts. It's what they do.

Continue to spread the word and bug your representatives. It is being noticed.

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[Ed Carpenter]

I've also had several races friends on facebook say their democrat's. How can you be a racer and be a Dem? I'll never understand that......I guess if you are that's your daddy's EPA doing this.

[Shaun Quill]

Originally Posted by deuces wild

I've also had several races friends on facebook say their democrat's. How can you be a racer and be a Dem? I'll never understand that......I guess if you are that's your daddy's EPA doing this.

What and the HELL does Dragracing have to do with being a Democrat? Can we leave politics out of this please? I come on class racer to have fun and read about dragracing !!! Not stupid politics !!!!

[FireSale]

Originally Posted by deuces wild

I've also had several races friends on facebook say their democrat's. How can you be a racer and be a Dem? I'll never understand that......I guess if you are that's your daddy's EPA doing this.

See post #121.

From Wickipedia:

"The EPA was proposed by President Richard Nixon and began operation on December 2, 1970, after Nixon signed an executive order. The order establishing the EPA was ratified by committee hearings in the House and Senate."

House and Senate were both Democratic in 1970.

Shaun: This is politics messing with drag racing. You have the right to remain uninformed. Don't click the thread title.

Dale

[Shaun Quill]

I understand that Dale, I just don't understand why a guy can't be A Drag racer and a Democrat.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Shaun Quill

I understand that Dale, I just don't understand why a guy can't be A Drag racer and a Democrat.

You can.
Everyone knows by now, that Democrats have perfected hypocrisy into an art form.

That's all I will say here...Otherwise, I'll get myself banned and get this whole thread shut down, and it's too important for that.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

You can.
Everyone knows by now, that Democrats have perfected hypocrisy into an art form.

That's all I will say here...Otherwise, I'll get myself banned and get this whole thread shut down, and it's too important for that.

Perfected hypocrisy? Have you spent any time at all in researching your current crop of GOP Presidential candidates? Are you delusional?

[Grey Ghost]

For decades the heavy truck industry offered what they called glider kits (body in white). If your old truck had a good drive train you wanted to keep using you could order a new chassis without a motor or trans and the manufacture would build the chassis to accept your older motor/trans combination.

In 2004 EPA emission mandates hit the heavy trucks. The 2004-2007 requirements were "liveable" for the most part. They did have problems which have been ironed out. 2008 to present have major issues with their emission programs. According to wrecker services in my area 9 out of 10 hooks are emission control problems with the newer trucks.

A new tractor ranges from $100 - $170k. Peterbilt/Kenworth are the only manufacturers still offering glider kits. Independent companies are the only ones allowed to install the older motors, factory dealers can not do it. They are installing 2003 and older non emission rebuilt motors in the new chassis. CAT 3406 and C15s, Cummins N14 and early ISXs, and Detroit 60 series engines all pre emission. The cost for the glider trucks with the older reliable motors is about the same as a new emission truck...which do you think are getting ordered?

To top it all off the emission trucks fuel mileage tanked 20% are more. On a truck getting 5 to 7 mpg this a significant drop and expense. If you consider the extra fuel burned with the emission mandates is the "carbon" output per truck really reduced?? Add down time with the new trucks to your bottom line also.

Nixon created the EPA. Congress gave the regulatory agencies the power to write and enact regulations then they seem surprised when they are out of the "loop" when the dumber than real life agency heads try to enact this crap. Base line bugets are another example. Congess has become nothing more than a bunch of lazy a** es there only for their own welfare payments.

[Harry 6674]

I remember when Al Gore said his goal was to eliminate the internal combustion engine. Nothing that comes from the democrats will ever be good for motorsports. Time to dissolve the EPA.