New Super Stock weight breaks for 2017

[SS3718]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

I would hope that they (NHRA) eliminate or reduce the weight subsidy for automatics. That rule is out of date. I know automatic racers would never complain about it and they make up the majority of racers out there. That being said, if it was close to parity at all, you would see more stickshift combos in those classes

Jim,
Do you think sticks and automatics should be combined without a weight break to automatics?

I agree with Mr. Beard. What's good for one, should be good for all! Nobody cares, except for a select few, that sticks/autos were combined in the new classes with stick indexes being adopted. I bet if they combine ALL sticks/autos and hit all of the auto indexes that there would be a lot more discussion and displeasure on the topic! Just my $0.02!

Nick

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by SS3718

Jim,
Do you think sticks and automatics should be combined without a weight break to automatics?

I agree with Mr. Beard. What's good for one, should be good for all! Nobody cares, except for a select few, that sticks/autos were combined in the new classes with stick indexes being adopted. I bet if they combine ALL sticks/autos and hit all of the auto indexes that there would be a lot more discussion and displeasure on the topic! Just my $0.02!

Nick

I think in Superstock the weight break is relevant in any class that they have to compete heads up. The best auto stuff is fast and expensive just like the best stick stuff. The weight break that exists in the modified classes is extremely biased towards automatics now. Maybe it should be an incremental change to placate the 95% and see how it goes. I understand Michaels point. His argument about the safety requirements are valid, but separate from the stick vs auto one.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

I understand Michaels point. His argument about the safety requirements are valid, but separate from the stick vs auto one.

Correct, they are separate arguments.

And for the record, I don't care which way a ruling goes. If FGT doesn't get a weight break for automatics, then neither should GT/Truck. Or if GT/Truck does, then everybody should.

Likewise, if they feel my 10.50-10.80 car is unsafe without a full roll cage, -5 firesuit, competition license, SFI flexplate & shield, then by all means, make it a rule that all cars 10.99-quicker meet those higher requirements. Sure glad I wouldn't be the one fielding THOUSANDS of calls and e-mails from Stock, Super Stock, and bracket racers if they made *that* announcement!

Equal application of rules. Period.

[Bryan Broaddus]

I think the weight breaks are great since it will revitalize some of the older Big Block high HP combinations that had no place in GT. It will separate the front wheel drive cars from some of the tanks since there is still a 2670 lb minimum.
Love to see a 426 in a GT car or Boss 429, L88 427, SOHC 427. Now it is possible in GT!! Bring on the EFI cars for a real Muscle Car race!!

[Bill Marshall]

Originally Posted by Bryan Broaddus

I think the weight breaks are great since it will revitalize some of the older Big Block high HP combinations that had no place in GT. It will separate the front wheel drive cars from some of the tanks since there is still a 2670 lb minimum.
Love to see a 426 in a GT car or Boss 429, L88 427, SOHC 427. Now it is possible in GT!! Bring on the EFI cars for a real Muscle Car race!!

There is no mention of GT cars in the new weight breaks so how will it make it possible for some big blocks to have a chance in GT. just don't understand

[Bryan Broaddus]

Bill,
The section where this is listed is for GT and FGT. Look at the proceeding paragraphs, and the ones just after, where it says the COPO Drag pak and Cobra Jet combos must run FGT. Why else would this be necessary if they didn't mean the weight breaks applied to the GT classes as well.

[Herbie Null]

In 2017 when my weight break goes from E to I is the indexs going to change to?