Roller Cams in Stock Eliminator?

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

From the comments, glad running Pure Stock...!

Lot of racers having a tough time with 8000rpm flat tappet hydraulic lifters.

What about a limit on Valve Spring Pressure.
Saying that!
What would make common sense?
or
Should racers be doing that anyway?

Dan

Common Sense......HA.....HA.....HA.....HA.....HA.....HA.. ...HO.....HO.....HO.....

[Terry Cain]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Maybe so CB, but maybe for not such a good reason.

I have a friend who no longer posts here, who proposed $200 solid lifters for Stock, years ago. Not much interest there, at that time.
But, now we have $800 ceramic bottom lifters, $400 tool steel ones, all with only .015 thou travel, which are completely legal.
Plus now I'm told you need the ceramic ones to break in the tool steel ones..
Makes you wonder who thinks these rules up sometimes.

Look again. Tool Steels are $2000 plus. About time we reconsider since less than 30 percent of the stockers are now flat tappet motors.

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

Look again. Tool Steels are $2000 plus. About time we reconsider since less than 30 percent of the stockers are now flat tappet motors.

Where did you come up with the 30% of cars use flat tappet cams in stock now? That number seems low.
I have an idea, why don’t we just lobby NHRA to do away with stock and put everybody into super stock? Raise the indexes or some of the slower cars can still dial in for races. That way everybody who wants roller cam’s wins.

[john ancona]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

Where did you come up with the 30% of cars use flat tappet cams in stock now? That number seems low.
I have an idea, why don’t we just lobby NHRA to do away with stock and put everybody into super stock? Raise the indexes or some of the slower cars can still dial in for races. That way everybody who wants roller cam’s wins.

As you have repeatedly done in the past you speak as if you are the un-appointed
spokesman for the 1500 plus Stock Eliminator racers ,with your poor scenarios as to anything to be done about the challenges some face in Stock Eliminator ,always quick to jump on anything that is said on here to put down anything said when it comes to a much needed change from a flat tappet cam to a roller cam ,no one wins with a Attitude like yours

I just post my opinion. I don’t agree with the roller cam movement that you and Terry support. Next, I think the 30% number is low for competitors with flat tappet cams.
I just offered a suggestion to help you guys out, that’s all. I never claimed I represented 1500. Id agree with you two, but then all three of us would be wrong. Have a nice day

Originally Posted by john ancona

As you have repeatedly done in the past you speak as if you are the un-appointed
spokesman for the 1500 plus Stock Eliminator racers ,with your poor scenarios as to anything to be done about the challenges some face in Stock Eliminator ,always quick to jump on anything that is said on here to put down anything said when it comes to a much needed change from a flat tappet cam to a roller cam ,no one wins with a Attitude like yours

[john ancona]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

If you gentlemen would like roller lifters I would suggest running Superstock. That class has all the stuff stocker dream of.
I believe it's called stock eliminator for a reason

Every time the subject of roller lifters for stock, someone suggest running Superstock ,It appears that there were a number of gentleman that wanted these changes over the past 30 years, Aftermarket Heads, Intake, Pistons ,Push Rods, Valves, Camshaft, Valve Springs, Retainers, Connecting Rods, Piston Rings, Crank Shaft, Engine Block, Oil Pan, Lifters, Roller Rockers, etc., Aftermarket parts have helped every body in stock eliminator achieve performance gains as well as durability along with a alternative to in some cases 50 year old OEM parts . Who will be the first to go back to the OEM parts and get run over (Flattened) or worse have their engine explode !

[Run to Rund]

Originally Posted by john ancona

Every time the subject of roller lifters for stock, someone suggest running Superstock ,It appears that there were a number of gentleman that wanted these changes over the past 30 years, Aftermarket Heads, Intake, Pistons ,Push Rods, Valves, Camshaft, Valve Springs, Retainers, Connecting Rods, Piston Rings, Crank Shaft, Engine Block, Oil Pan, Lifters, Roller Rockers, etc., Aftermarket parts have helped every body in stock eliminator achieve performance gains as well as durability along with a alternative to in some cases 50 year old OEM parts . Who will be the first to go back to the OEM parts and get run over (Flattened) or worse have their engine explode !

After all these aftermarket parts, NHRA considers flat tappets, albeit very non-stock ones, to be the sacred cow making the car "Stock". WOW