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Old 10-23-2015, 09:02 AM   #1
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I didn’t mind sitting in my van in a hayfield in the rain for two days; no one can control the weather. And I didn’t mind that the NHRA chose to lead off on Saturday with the Pro’s; they are the primary reason that the spectators are there. I didn’t even mind waiting until Monday to complete the race. But what really annoys me is paying someone a dollar to hand me a paper towel each time that I go to the bathroom. The first time that I ever saw this was at Englishtown, but it seems to have spread, like the plague, to Atco, Maple Grove, and Cecil County, I believe.

Now, I’ve been to upscale motels where the maitre D hands you a towel, but they were never looking for a tip. And I know that half of the racers today have motor homes and can escape this nuisance. But if NHRA’s true customers are the spectators, then why allow them to be subject to this fleecing? Wouldn’t it be better for the tracks to have their own personnel to take care of the bathrooms, and pay them to do so? If 15,000 people really show up for one of these races, and each pays just a quarter, there’s almost an additional $4000 being coerced from your customers.
Maybe I’m just too cheap, but for spending 5 days at Maple Grove, this is what annoyed me the most. And it annoys me every time I see it at other tracks, too.

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Old 10-23-2015, 09:10 AM   #2
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Greg, I don't tip them anything; at Maple Grove, E-town, or anywhere else. Just because there is a container for tips, doesn't make it mandatory to put something in it.
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I didn’t mind sitting in my van in a hayfield in the rain for two days; no one can control the weather. And I didn’t mind that the NHRA chose to lead off on Saturday with the Pro’s; they are the primary reason that the spectators are there. I didn’t even mind waiting until Monday to complete the race. But what really annoys me is paying someone a dollar to hand me a paper towel each time that I go to the bathroom. The first time that I ever saw this was at Englishtown, but it seems to have spread, like the plague, to Atco, Maple Grove, and Cecil County, I believe.

Now, I’ve been to upscale motels where the maitre D hands you a towel, but they were never looking for a tip. And I know that half of the racers today have motor homes and can escape this nuisance. But if NHRA’s true customers are the spectators, then why allow them to be subject to this fleecing? Wouldn’t it be better for the tracks to have their own personnel to take care of the bathrooms, and pay them to do so? If 15,000 people really show up for one of these races, and each pays just a quarter, there’s almost an additional $4000 being coerced from your customers.
Maybe I’m just too cheap, but for spending 5 days at Maple Grove, this is what annoyed me the most. And it annoys me every time I see it at other tracks, too.

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I think it's more of a "Northeast" thing rather than NHRA. They do that at the bigger events at Budds Creek, MD as well, an IHRA track.

We are already paying good money to be there to race. But it seems like EVERYBODY is trying to find little "add-ons" to charge, like phone companies, airlines and more. There was a Choice Hotel near Dinwiddie that had a hidden fee for "toiletries" - soap, shampoo, etc. Stuff that's expected to be part of the advertised rates. When I wrote the company, I got a form letter back saying that some hotels are privately owned, they can't control what the charge, blah, blah, blah!
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I would be happy to pay $1 to go in a clean $.hiter. but that's just me.
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I would be happy to pay $1 to go in a clean $.hiter. but that's just me.
Is it really too much to ask to expect a clean "$.hiter" to use when you pay anywhere from $250 - $350 to enter a race without having to pay extra? No wonder they can't get any spectators! Jim

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Is it really too much to ask to expect a clean "$.hiter" to use when you pay anywhere from $250 - $350 to enter a race without having to pay extra? No wonder they can't get any spectators! Jim

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You hit the nail right on the head. Most tracks facilities are dirty and gross. There is no excuse for the restroom facilities to be run down and dirty. It sure doesn't help to get spectators in the stands.
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:33 PM   #8
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I didn’t mind sitting in my van in a hayfield in the rain for two days; no one can control the weather. And I didn’t mind that the NHRA chose to lead off on Saturday with the Pro’s; they are the primary reason that the spectators are there. I didn’t even mind waiting until Monday to complete the race. But what really annoys me is paying someone a dollar to hand me a paper towel each time that I go to the bathroom. The first time that I ever saw this was at Englishtown, but it seems to have spread, like the plague, to Atco, Maple Grove, and Cecil County, I believe.

Now, I’ve been to upscale motels where the maitre D hands you a towel, but they were never looking for a tip. And I know that half of the racers today have motor homes and can escape this nuisance. But if NHRA’s true customers are the spectators, then why allow them to be subject to this fleecing? Wouldn’t it be better for the tracks to have their own personnel to take care of the bathrooms, and pay them to do so? If 15,000 people really show up for one of these races, and each pays just a quarter, there’s almost an additional $4000 being coerced from your customers.
Maybe I’m just too cheap, but for spending 5 days at Maple Grove, this is what annoyed me the most. And it annoys me every time I see it at other tracks, too.

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That's been going on for a long time and yes it's annoying.

It's a race track, not the Four Seasons.
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:50 PM   #10
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One more thing. The bathrooms are disgusting at most tracks in D1. Most of the time you have to deal with port a potties that even worse. It's bad enough that money spent for a points meet doesn't include clean bathrooms. To have disgusting bathrooms at a national event is over the top.
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