New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??

[Allen Sherman]

Not gonna get in a pissing match on here but here's the break down on parts cost:
Dart block all done, bored, honed, lifter bushed and race ready is $2500
Top notch heads and intake with valves, springs, head studs and guide plates $5000
Tool steel lifters top notch dlc coated from trend $1100
Roller rockers from comp, ultra pro magnum $500+
Metric ring set with ring spacers (best stuff) $1375
Manley pro I beam rods $1175
Cp stocker pistons $800-1000
Good crank is gonna run you $1000

And you still haven't bought pushrods, gaskets, timing set, bearings, timing cover, oil pan, carb, and all the little accesories. I build these for a living and buy the parts on a daily basis so I kinda know what it costs...and I also can gurantee mine will go "right through tear down" also...

[HR9121]

Wow! My little spare parts 6k motor is looking better all the time lol. Don't run too bad either.

[Bill Diehl]

Originally Posted by Allen Sherman

Not gonna get in a pissing match on here but here's the break down on parts cost:
Dart block all done, bored, honed, lifter bushed and race ready is $2500
Top notch heads and intake with valves, springs, head studs and guide plates $5000
Tool steel lifters top notch dlc coated from trend $1100
Roller rockers from comp, ultra pro magnum $500+
Metric ring set with ring spacers (best stuff) $1375
Manley pro I beam rods $1175
Cp stocker pistons $800-1000
Good crank is gonna run you $1000

And you still haven't bought pushrods, gaskets, timing set, bearings, timing cover, oil pan, carb, and all the little accesories. I build these for a living and buy the parts on a daily basis so I kinda know what it costs...and I also can gurantee mine will go "right through tear down" also...

roller rockers from comp
Double that if you opt for the big studs, and install adjusters in the rockers...triple it if you can't do it yourself.....and I am jus talking about the rockers

[Dave Gantz]

Wow. Definitely not the Stock Eliminator I was attracted to in the 70's!

[Chris1529]

Although its a completely different sport, I'd like to share a line from Robert Duvall from the movie "Day's of Thunder". "There's nothing stock about a stock car"

[Signman]

"Stock is not Stock" Gerry Stein

[Allen Sherman]

Chris and frank those are both funny and true statements...lol...I've been racing stock over 20 years now and my dad raced since the 60's and we constantly have a conversation about how drastic the rules have changed even just in the last 6 years, much less how different it was when you had to have the stock valve spring height and pressures, stock cam durations and overlap and such...evolution is reality as far as this all goes...

[HandOverFist]

Originally Posted by Allen Sherman

Chris and frank those are both funny and true statements...lol...I've been racing stock over 20 years now and my dad raced since the 60's and we constantly have a conversation about how drastic the rules have changed even just in the last 6 years, much less how different it was when you had to have the stock valve spring height and pressures, stock cam durations and overlap and such...evolution is reality as far as this all goes...

Allen - From your experience with these engines what would be the minimum work involved in getting one to say middle of the road performance with today's standards?

[FINESPLINE]

Originally Posted by Signman

"Stock is not Stock" Gerry Stein

Could not have put it any better !

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by Allen Sherman

Not gonna get in a pissing match on here but here's the break down on parts cost:
Dart block all done, bored, honed, lifter bushed and race ready is $2500
Top notch heads and intake with valves, springs, head studs and guide plates $5000
Tool steel lifters top notch dlc coated from trend $1100
Roller rockers from comp, ultra pro magnum $500+
Metric ring set with ring spacers (best stuff) $1375
Manley pro I beam rods $1175
Cp stocker pistons $800-1000
Good crank is gonna run you $1000

And you still haven't bought pushrods, gaskets, timing set, bearings, timing cover, oil pan, carb, and all the little accesories. I build these for a living and buy the parts on a daily basis so I kinda know what it costs...and I also can gurantee mine will go "right through tear down" also...

Why do heads and intake cost $5,000?
Thanks,David