AHFS - Good or Bad????

[Mickey Whaley]

yep the gong show and the price is right think of a numbber and tell me what it is?

[Doug McCue]

A new thought or maybe not. Quit putting hp on fast cars, let them be fast. Enhance those cars that have to compete with the fast cars. Hmmmm maybe or not?

[Gary Parker]

Racer A spends a lot of time and hard work to make his car fast.. His reward, get more horsepower and put weight in the car. Race B Does not work on it that much. Spends as little as possible, His reward, take horsepower off and take weight out.. Wish there was an easy solution, but I do not see it....

[Alan Roehrich]

The AHFS is slow to work, at best, because NHRA rarely, if ever, truly puts the emphasis on performance in Stock Eliminator and Super Stock any more. Therefore, as adeptly stated by Mr. Parker, it is pretty much a penalty paid by guys who work hard and spend money to go fast, and there are no real rewards. So long as that is the case, situations where it works will be rare.

If you were interested in doing a search, this subject (AHFS), or subjects (AHFS and performance rewards, or lack thereof), have been discussed at length, multiple times, sometimes for 10 or more pages.

[Bruce Noland]

The ahfs could be a fair way of regulating performance in Stock and Super Stock. The problem is with the nhra staff. A few years ago Bob Lang had a strangle hold on the ahfs and he was not at all bashful about abusing the ahfs to go after certain racers while protecting his suck-up pets. Well, now Bob is out of the picture and we once again have nhra staff twisting the ahfs to accomodate the chosen few and punishing the hard working guys. To exempt certain cars/classes from the ahfs while competing in Stock is a fradulent enterprise. And according to Linda Louie (nhra lawyer) that is not meant to happen.

We all know how the system is meant to work. But the nhra staff won't stand for it. There's too much money to be made for that to ever happen.

[Jeff Teuton]

Needless to say 'Needs Work'. Dynamic classes such as Stock and Super Stock that change often with new allowable parts or rule enhancement or just smart people working on their cars which are regulated by Static numbers; not moving 1.00 under trigger, 1.20 under instant, .850 under each period just for a few. Both should be moving all the time and based on averages for the classes or combos. It would not be very hard to do this, and adjust some things as it becomes necessary. So far there has been little interest on NHRA's part for change.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Gary Parker

Racer A spends a lot of time and hard work to make his car fast.. His reward, get more horsepower and put weight in the car. Race B Does not work on it that much. Spends as little as possible, His reward, take horsepower off and take weight out.. Wish there was an easy solution, but I do not see it....

Sounds a little like our welfare system, worker A works hard and makes too much money so tax him do death. Worker B refuses to work so give him food stamps and a free phone!

[Carguy49]

Thanks to all who responded.

I didn't realize that this topic had been discussed before -should have checked.

Is there a definitive answer, probably not.

I guess when NHRA is fixed (let's not open that can of worms again), everything will be perfect.

[FS Fan]

calculate real horsepower.

every run NHRA knows the weight, ET, MPH.

They could calculate HP based on ET and MPH by adding a few spreadsheet columns

Take the top-5, 10, 20, highest HP ratings for that combo, average them, and that's your rated HP. Only when someone makes a run that dips into that top category does it change the average.

This requires changing the class weight breaks to reflect the new ratings. Maybe a 6lbs class is now a 4lbs class.

[Mickey Whaley]

everybody will be dead before it is straight