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Old 09-15-2014, 06:01 PM   #1
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Can't they just put more wing into it? I've seen faster cars go down slick tracks.
Pro Stockers don't have a wing; they have a wickerbill that produces very little downforce. A T/F dragster generates almost 10,000 lbs of downforce at speed and a F/C generates almost 7000 lbs; in contrast a Pro Stock car generates less than 500 lbs of downforce.
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Old 09-15-2014, 06:28 PM   #2
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Default Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats?

Think everybody in racing knows that Pro Stocks have virtually no downforce and are the hardest cars to drive. Apparently Graham Light never learned that or had Morgan, WJ, etc. voice it to him...yea, right. Bruton got his gate and spectators and racers got something else altogether.
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Old 09-16-2014, 10:58 AM   #3
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Pro Stockers don't have a wing; they have a wickerbill that produces very little downforce. A T/F dragster generates almost 10,000 lbs of downforce at speed and a F/C generates almost 7000 lbs; in contrast a Pro Stock car generates less than 500 lbs of downforce.
Actually fan they do have a wing. The wicker is attached to the rear of it. I thing nhra added 1/8" to it this year for 3/4" total height. Maybe they need to add a little more and change up the front splitter a little.
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Old 09-16-2014, 11:05 AM   #4
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From the very beginning of the run both cars were loose. As they proceeded down the track, things began to get worse. I really believe both cars would have crashed if the other car would not have aborted the run. Cause: not enough traction period!
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Default Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats?

NHRA's Charlotte misadventure: There's a problem in Pro Stock.

Here we go..... You must read on - http://www.motorsport.com/nhra/news/...-in-pro-stock/
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:16 PM   #6
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Default Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats?

One of the Funny Car crew chiefs commented that the track was good until 550 ft. After that he said it was like driving on the surface of the moon! This was before Pro Stock ran. I witnessed the wreck and am really happy that the driver is OK. It took a long time for him to get out of the car.
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NHRA's Charlotte misadventure: There's a problem in Pro Stock.

Here we go..... You must read on - http://www.motorsport.com/nhra/news/...-in-pro-stock/

What the heck does EFI have to do with the track conditions and the crash?

Because that seems to be the author's big problem with Pro Stock, that they use, dear Lord, of all things, carburetors.
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:20 PM   #8
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Default Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats?

posted on YB

"they don't run any weekly races, TNT, nothing. You let a track sit for many months, then show up and try and prep it for these cars....ain't going to happen. Even if they get a marginal (at best) surface the groove is going to be about 6" wider than the cars."

here's some CONCRETE evidence from Bobby

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...obody-will-win

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Old 09-20-2014, 01:17 PM   #9
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Default Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats?

Lack of track period. They don't make a wicker big enough to fix that.
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