Stock suggestion #3

[Paul Wong]

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865

Bingo!

This is the whole point. I have no complaint about the new cars as I have part in them. Just make us all play with the same rules. Horsepower for all that earn it. But this is way to simple in a place where the sanctioning body just wants to convolute it to the point where no one knows what the real answer is.

[Bob Mulry]

Please refer to all my other posts regarding FX cars in Stock...

I keep trying but nobody is listening......

Or they hear the message and don't care because it adversely affects their private agenda.....

Bob

[Jim Kaekel]

X3!

[njk53]

The factory race cars have a huge advantage over cars built in the 60's, 70's & 80's just from a technology standpoint. For example distributorless ignitions, roller camshafts, overall vehicle weight, etc. They make big power with small cubic inch right out of the factory. But the thing that really grinds me is the fact that these cars have bogus non-production coil over suspensions and are not using the stock type components they come out of the factory with. And how about camshafts with .600 lift + plus fuel injection units that are so much more efficient and make more power over a carburetor.

I am OK with the technology aspect with the late model cars, but they should be held to the same rules as the older cars right down to the suspensions and engine specs. The combos they race need to be available to the general public bought from a dealer.

These cars are purpose built race cars and nowhere reflective of a vehicle that comes off of the showroom floor.

I agree with a comment somone made, the factory cars should be in a modified production class not stock eliminator.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

Please refer to all my other posts regarding FX cars in Stock...

I keep trying but nobody is listening......

Or they hear the message and don't care because it adversely affects their private agenda.....

Bob

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

That's good , Bob .. You're right ..simple and obvious solution to that issue.

Only two more problems, easily fixed :

2, No new classes (besides the one in section three.) No new indexes
NO heads up runs anytime, anywhere,between FX and non FX cars for at least five years.

3, ALL FX cars run class (where stock class is run) as FX Combo. Stick and auto combined..
Now you have a Factory showcase where ever class is run .
At the most ,NHRA is out one more trophies

You're right Bob..personal agendas driving this..again.

I don't need credit for anything..Anyone can take these ideas and submit them as their own..I don't care one way or the other.
If it won't work, why not?
If it's not simple enough for NHRA, then what is?
Remember, K-I-S-Stocker racer.
It has to be easy and cheap for NHRA, for them to even consider it

First point was going to be ..All cars above CC go to Super Stock, but then I figured that with an FX Combo class , all the cars would be mid 8's to mid 10's anyway, so let 'em go at it in a showcase for The Big Three

Costs the FX racer for a little bit of vinyl..FX or X..
NHRA actually saves themselves a couple of class trophies

Capisce'?

[442OLDS]

I think all of these "suggestions" were primarily about INDY.There was a Factory Stock Class that did not have to worry about getting horsepower.

I think the reason that they did this was to prevent a bunch of cars shutting off early like a lot of older cars do.Keep REAL racing.However,"most" old cars can't shut off and run that fast in nearly 4000 ft air.

I can't believe the original authors of the AHFS did not take into account the weather conditions at all.They treat Bristol and Houston as one and the same.Not a good idea.

Maybe they need to shut off the clocks at Indy next year,and after qualifying,they can post who the quickest cars are.After that,they can administer AHFS for ALL qualifiers.

[SS Engine Guy]

Gary Parker! You hit the nail on the head! The only catch is that if running stock class and you had to follow the rule book (and the big 3 had been "advised" to follow the rule book) all the special race ported factory heads would be illegal. All the "cross breeding" of rear ends, trans, etc. would not be accepted. In other words most of the cars causing this discussion wouldn't fit the class. Which is what caused all this discussion in the first place. I build these new "stock" engines. I knew from day one what they are capable of. And what a mess this was destined to become. I thank the big 3 for getting back into sportsman drag racing and I thank all my customers and friends for taking the opportunities to own these vehicles! It's just not Stock and in most cases it isn't SS. These also aren't the only under factored vehicles in Stock and SS. I understand the "protecting your combo" phrase that is thrown around a lot these days but if rules were enforced and ratings were somewhat close "protecting your combo" wouldn't even be in a racers vocabulary. Thank you Barry Parker for injecting some pure common sense into this discussion!

[Bill Diehl]

Who cares what they all have...some folks are smarter than others also.

Bottom line is, if your stuff can run 1 or 1.5 under and it shows up on the board, you should be treated the same as all others.

[Jeff Teuton]

I agree, leave them alone.