Steel rod life expectancy

[Kevin Panzino]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

The only Manley connecting rod that is made in the USA is the Pro Beam. All the others are off shore blanks machined in the USA.

That would be news to me and would result in an extremely irate phone call to both manley and patterson racing tomorrow morning....

Are you saying the Manley TourLite series which they specifically tout as 100% USA made, are in fact offshore forgings?

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino

That would be news to me and would result in an extremely irate phone call to both manley and patterson racing tomorrow morning....

Are you saying the Manley TourLite series which they specifically tout as 100% USA made, are in fact offshore forgings?

Kevin, the only connecting rod I know is 100% USA is the Pro Beam Billet.

Manley exports crankshafts, piston pins, retainers and connecting rods from China.
Their Titanium valves from Israel and the other valves from India.

Just take a look at the following Bill of Lading as examples:

http://portexaminer.com/trade-data/s...tshanycd10470/

http://portexaminer.com/trade-data/r...chydnyk000163/

http://portexaminer.com/trade-data/s...iawofy1311035/

http://portexaminer.com/trade-data/s...lae3116141nyc/

[joespanova]

In a situation like mine , where you lose an aluminum rod..........was it a bearing / oiling failure that caused the rod to fail...........or the rod getting kicked out of shape that made it "appear" to be a bearing failure? Hard to say.........the crank has bearing metal transfer that was obviously hot...........but why? Which came first ? Is the oil system adequate ?
Rods probably have 120ish runs on them.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by joespanova

In a situation like mine , where you lose an aluminum rod..........was it a bearing / oiling failure that caused the rod to fail...........or the rod getting kicked out of shape that made it "appear" to be a bearing failure? Hard to say.........the crank has bearing metal transfer that was obviously hot...........but why? Which came first ? Is the oil system adequate ?
Rods probably have 120ish runs on them.

With that many runs, material fatigue.

[Bobby Lundholm]

Originally Posted by joespanova

Anyone using steel rods to 9000 RPM (give or take) with 300 plus runs?
I lost a rod this weekend, ( Howards aluminum ) although the damage was basically just the block , 1 piston..........., Now I'll put a spare block into service and consider steel rods..............but , I'm not about to spend 3-4 grand on a set of Carillos.........no way. I'll go back to aluminum , possibly. I think any rod manufacturer that tells you their aluminum rods will see 300 runs in a combo like mine is full of shee-ot.
My fault / stupidity for running them past the 80 -100 runs ..........I should have chucked them a month ago........I'm a slow learner......... But my best guess is I didnt have more than 125 runs on those rods.

Small Chevy , 14.0 comp 6.150 rod.........so you can do the math , the piston isn't heavy.........

Give me a call I work at Oliver Racing Parts I'll work with you. We've had customers call that had 10 years on set of rods in 2,500 HP blower motor. Oliver is the only company that every part of the production process is done in the USA to be exact everything is done in Michigan.
231-237-4515

[joespanova]

Originally Posted by Bobby Lundholm

Give me a call I work at Oliver Racing Parts I'll work with you. We've had customers call that had 10 years on set of rods in 2,500 HP blower motor. Oliver is the only company that every part of the production process is done in the USA to be exact everything is done in Michigan.
231-237-4515

Will do. I'll call this afternoon.........
Thanks

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Bobby Lundholm

Give me a call I work at Oliver Racing Parts I'll work with you. We've had customers call that had 10 years on set of rods in 2,500 HP blower motor. Oliver is the only company that every part of the production process is done in the USA to be exact everything is done in Michigan.
231-237-4515

Oliver makes one of the best steel rods I have seen.
Some of the Ford off road racing trucks have used their rods for 3 seasons without failure.

[joespanova]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Oliver makes one of the best steel rods I have seen.
Some of the Ford off road racing trucks have used their rods for 3 seasons without failure.

I don't think they are going to be able to give me a 6.150 rod......and I'm not into buying new pistons.......but , I'll see what he has to say.

[Bobby Lundholm]

Originally Posted by joespanova

I don't think they are going to be able to give me a 6.150 rod......and I'm not into buying new pistons.......but , I'll see what he has to say.

We can make you a 6.150 rod with no problems. If the big end and small end are all standard sizes it will not take much for us to get you taken care of. Custom rods generally take about 6-8 weeks to complete once ordered, but lately we have been able to finish them in 4 weeks.

[joespanova]

Originally Posted by Bobby Lundholm

We can make you a 6.150 rod with no problems. If the big end and small end are all standard sizes it will not take much for us to get you taken care of. Custom rods generally take about 6-8 weeks to complete once ordered, but lately we have been able to finish them in 4 weeks.

OK , cool.........
I'll call