Just What We Need!

69Cobra · 05-31-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Kelliher

I don't get why so many people whine and cry about Jr. Dragsters. Where do you think a lot of us younger generation drivers got their start? And if you want this class/sport to live on, we need a constant influx of young drivers. I personally am looking forward to getting one for my son when he's old enough (assuming he wants to).

I agree Patrick.

I personally wouldn't get involved in jr.'s with a 5 year old and that level of a car. My Oldest turns 10 this year and I'm planning on getting him a jr. for next year as I've elected to avoid the hair pulling of the 12.90 cars.

Jim like it or not this is the future of our sport and my family. It would go along way to support these kids and show them the right way of doing things. Either that or just embrace the suck!

Painter · 05-31-2014, 08:05 PM

Jim, what in world set you off. I have not even seen a Jr in so long my grand daughter that we are raising has not even seen one. Points meets, national events, sportsnationals, and national opens that I have been to in the last several years havnt had juniors. Where the heck are you going? I have thought jrs were a good idea since I first heard about them at Indy in the 80's I think. I think you are WAY off target on this.

Tom P · 05-31-2014, 08:52 PM

I can't help but thinking that Jr Dragsters have been the salvation of the sport. Look how many of them there are and those kids often continue on in racing afterward. Obviously Erica Enders is a shining example of the success.

Without them attendance would have fallen to track-shutting levels in many places by now. I didn't think this way at first but making them a part of the days action gets them involved for the future.
Bringing kids to the track, driving Jr's or not is a good thing. Worked out OK for Mr Force and how many Stock and SS racers kids got involved because they hung around at the tracks?

Jim Wahl · 05-31-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Painter

Jim, what in world set you off. I have not even seen a Jr in so long my grand daughter that we are raising has not even seen one. Points meets, national events, sportsnationals, and national opens that I have been to in the last several years havnt had juniors. Where the heck are you going? I have thought jrs were a good idea since I first heard about them at Indy in the 80's I think. I think you are WAY off target on this.

Not sure where you have been racing but I went to 10 IHRA and NHRA races every year for the last 4 years and there have been Jr.s at every one of them! Just look at the adds for these races.

You guys are totally missing my point, maybe it's my fault. FIVE year olds guys! FIVE years olds. Jim

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joe cool · 05-31-2014, 09:10 PM

I have a Great grandson who loves anything that has wheels. He turns them upside down and spins the wheels as fast as he can. When he is 5 I will not put him in a car,I just think he doesn't have the judgement required for it. Maybe at 8 or 9 ,I would never forgive myself if he hurt himself or someone else . There is plenty of time at a later age for him to make passes and gain experience. just my opinion.

Painter · 05-31-2014, 09:15 PM

Well I have not been to every nhra div two points meet the last couple of years, but I have never seen a Jr at one of these races. I have even looked for somebody that is hauling one around upstairs.The problems you have outlined seem more like track management issues.

Kegracing · 05-31-2014, 09:26 PM

Jim, sounds like you need a beer or three!
As a racer and father, and someone that used to hate hearing the Jr's fire up, and now has a son racing one, I think you are missing the point. With that said, I hope the 5 yr old training is at Jr events only. Maybe even the 6-7 yr olds also...
I agree with you, there are parents out there that do not make their kids behave... not just at the race track. Have you seen these same parents at a tee ball game or soccer game lately? No wonder so many kids are total brats with a entitlement attitude!
We need the kids in racing. Other forms of motorsports, - carts, atv/dirt bikes, etc. all let the little kids race. If we start them off at the drags early, maybe there is hope for the future of the sport we love. Let's just hope the tracks and NHRA manage it with some common sense.

Ken
Stock 412

Jim Wahl · 05-31-2014, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kegracing

Jim, sounds like you need a beer or three!
As a racer and father, and someone that used to hate hearing the Jr's fire up, and now has a son racing one, I think you are missing the point. With that said, I hope the 5 yr old training is at Jr events only. Maybe even the 6-7 yr olds also...
I agree with you, there are parents out there that do not make their kids behave... not just at the race track. Have you seen these same parents at a tee ball game or soccer game lately? No wonder so many kids are total brats with a entitlement attitude!
We need the kids in racing. Other forms of motorsports, - carts, atv/dirt bikes, etc. all let the little kids race. If we start them off at the drags early, maybe there is hope for the future of the sport we love. Let's just hope the tracks and NHRA manage it with some common sense.

Ken
Stock 412

You're right Ken, and I have been a Little League President and coach when my boy was playing ball. We used to say at board meeting that if we could just keep the parents out of the park and let the kids play ball everything would go much smoother! Jim

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Bill Bogues · 05-31-2014, 10:25 PM

I have no problem with the jr dragster concept.The sport needs these kids to have future racers. What I do have a problem with is the time it takes to run these little monstrosetys. You can run three pairs of stockers down the track in the time it takes to run one pair of these things down the track. They may not run but an 1/8 mile but they still have to go to the nearest turnoff to get off the track. I don't think they should be run at pts meets or any kind of big race where you have a lot of racing to get done.

REITER RACING 3 · 05-31-2014, 10:43 PM

Hey guys, did we forget about enjoying racing, and rooting for our dads or moms in the semis or finals. In this horrible day and age of cell phones and I pods and I pads and I don't know what the heck it is, do you remember being under the car, and pop explaining what it is, and how it works. True racers are not built to order. If its in you, It can't be stopped. Allowing or pushing it at 5 years old ain't right. Enjoy your children and teach them to enjoy your acheivements!

05-31-2014, 08:05 PM	#2
Painter Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 227 Likes: 4 Liked 162 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Just What We Need! Jim, what in world set you off. I have not even seen a Jr in so long my grand daughter that we are raising has not even seen one. Points meets, national events, sportsnationals, and national opens that I have been to in the last several years havnt had juniors. Where the heck are you going? I have thought jrs were a good idea since I first heard about them at Indy in the 80's I think. I think you are WAY off target on this.

05-31-2014, 08:52 PM	#3
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 707 Likes: 30 Liked 239 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Just What We Need! I can't help but thinking that Jr Dragsters have been the salvation of the sport. Look how many of them there are and those kids often continue on in racing afterward. Obviously Erica Enders is a shining example of the success. Without them attendance would have fallen to track-shutting levels in many places by now. I didn't think this way at first but making them a part of the days action gets them involved for the future. Bringing kids to the track, driving Jr's or not is a good thing. Worked out OK for Mr Force and how many Stock and SS racers kids got involved because they hung around at the tracks?

05-31-2014, 09:10 PM	#5
joe cool Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: southwest iowa Posts: 53 Likes: 3 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Just What We Need! I have a Great grandson who loves anything that has wheels. He turns them upside down and spins the wheels as fast as he can. When he is 5 I will not put him in a car,I just think he doesn't have the judgement required for it. Maybe at 8 or 9 ,I would never forgive myself if he hurt himself or someone else . There is plenty of time at a later age for him to make passes and gain experience. just my opinion.

05-31-2014, 09:15 PM	#6
Painter Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 227 Likes: 4 Liked 162 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Just What We Need! Well I have not been to every nhra div two points meet the last couple of years, but I have never seen a Jr at one of these races. I have even looked for somebody that is hauling one around upstairs.The problems you have outlined seem more like track management issues.

05-31-2014, 09:26 PM	#7
Kegracing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Red Oak, TX Posts: 441 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just What We Need! Jim, sounds like you need a beer or three! As a racer and father, and someone that used to hate hearing the Jr's fire up, and now has a son racing one, I think you are missing the point. With that said, I hope the 5 yr old training is at Jr events only. Maybe even the 6-7 yr olds also... I agree with you, there are parents out there that do not make their kids behave... not just at the race track. Have you seen these same parents at a tee ball game or soccer game lately? No wonder so many kids are total brats with a entitlement attitude! We need the kids in racing. Other forms of motorsports, - carts, atv/dirt bikes, etc. all let the little kids race. If we start them off at the drags early, maybe there is hope for the future of the sport we love. Let's just hope the tracks and NHRA manage it with some common sense. Ken Stock 412

05-31-2014, 10:25 PM	#9
Bill Bogues Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bethany La. Posts: 323 Likes: 96 Liked 169 Times in 53 Posts	Re: Just What We Need! I have no problem with the jr dragster concept.The sport needs these kids to have future racers. What I do have a problem with is the time it takes to run these little monstrosetys. You can run three pairs of stockers down the track in the time it takes to run one pair of these things down the track. They may not run but an 1/8 mile but they still have to go to the nearest turnoff to get off the track. I don't think they should be run at pts meets or any kind of big race where you have a lot of racing to get done. __________________ Bill Bogues 4696 STK

05-31-2014, 10:43 PM	#10
REITER RACING 3 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just What We Need! Hey guys, did we forget about enjoying racing, and rooting for our dads or moms in the semis or finals. In this horrible day and age of cell phones and I pods and I pads and I don't know what the heck it is, do you remember being under the car, and pop explaining what it is, and how it works. True racers are not built to order. If its in you, It can't be stopped. Allowing or pushing it at 5 years old ain't right. Enjoy your children and teach them to enjoy your acheivements!

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