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[J&P]

Greg,

It's not that they are re-packaging China's crap, It's that they have decided to have their own manufacturing done over in China....
Their getting their winches made for peanuts, but the pricing hasn't gone down, just the quality.
BTW Superwinch is guilty of the same
Pete

[CMcAllister]

I am often in the same predicament when sourcing tools, parts, raw materials or anything else for that matter. Sometimes there are no other options. American companies that once made stuff have closed plants, sent jobs out of the country and become nothing more than a marketing company. Reverse engineering and counterfeiting is another subject altogether.

I repair my US made electric tools and equipment rather than replace. I also look for new/old or mint used stuff on ebay when in need of something that's not made here anymore. Parts are always US made with few exceptions, never Chicom. Domestic stuff can usually be found, but It's not always easy and getting harder. I'm old enough that it still matters to me. Sadly, most people can't tell the difference or care anymore.

[Alex Denysenko]

Originally Posted by J&P

Greg,

It's not that they are re-packaging China's crap, It's that they have decided to have their own manufacturing done over in China....
Their getting their winches made for peanuts, but the pricing hasn't gone down, just the quality.
BTW Superwinch is guilty of the same
Pete

100% correct so is Holley and most of their divisions , (hooker and flowtech are made in Mexico) actually worse than china as far as I'm concerned), do you know how embarrasing it is to sell a new Weiand high rise intake and right on the box it says "proudly machined in bolingbrook KY from a casting produced in PRC ie; peoples republic of china. we had and older guy customer buying it and he just happened to be a Korean war vet he refused to buy it he bought a edelbrock victor jr instead against my advice even though it wasn't really suited to his needs a 75 year old man of pricipal that wasn't leaving without a aluminum intake and 4 barrel carb for his SBF.
or those grossly over priced Hooker super comp street headers that say HECHO en mexico on the box

[Greg Reimer 7376]

I can think of one exception. Our local machinist had a racer bring him a 350 block. It had HECHO EN MEXICO cast into it, but it sonic tested out to be very thick. It turned out to be one of the fastest Super Stock motors he had ever done. Apparently the foundry down there doesn't employ the latest thin wall casting proceedures they did here.

[ss wannabee]

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376

I can think of one exception. Our local machinist had a racer bring him a 350 block. It had HECHO EN MEXICO cast into it, but it sonic tested out to be very thick. It turned out to be one of the fastest Super Stock motors he had ever done. Apparently the foundry down there doesn't employ the latest thin wall casting proceedures they did here.

Sounds like that block was from a GM Goodwrench replacement motor...they are
made down there....

[Greg Reimer 7376]

Part of the problem of excessive globalization costing American jobs is due to excessive over regulation, outrageous environmental compliance issues, taxes, and all sorts of issues we are forced to tolerate. If you wanted to end that, let's export liberalism and the governmental monstrosity overseas and see them deal with that!

[njk53]

Greg, you couldn't have said it better. The environmental laws on the books in Washington are killing American Industry.

[Rory McNeil]

Even paying much more doesn`t guarantee getting US made stuff. For many years I have paid 3 times as much for Red Wing work boots, rather than offshore stuff from a big box store. Imagine my suprise when a couple of years ago, my new $230. Red Wings said made in China! When I went back to the store, they told me that indeed, some of there models were now being made overseas, but the quality was still good, and so far, 2 years later, they are still holding up well, but it still pisses me off.
Even some of the Mac and Snap On tools I see when the tool trucks stop by work are made oversees. I guess its all part of the WalMart mentality, which is why I never set foot in one of their stores.
And the fact that many of the younger drivers, (those that actually take the trouble to get their drivers licenses these days!), for the most part have no brand loyalty to any American Auto Manufacturers, and in fact seem to take pleasure in bashing the domestics. Sad.

[FED 387]

some of those enviormental laws are absolutley necessary--- some types of people will put anything into the air and down the drain with absolutely no regard for anyone or any place--- however its also necessary for the worlds health!!! but I do agree they go totally overboard with excessive regulations. Quality is not a word in the Chinese vocabulary-- other places in SE Asia seem to have a similiar situation--- However occasionally you " might" a quality (LOL) part