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Old 05-10-2014, 11:01 AM   #1
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Out of curiosity, does NHRA have a requirement to calibrate their measurement devices on a periodic basis and provide documentation of such?
Having worked in Industry where precision measurement is required to determine part acceptability, procedures required calibration on a regular basis.
Additionally, utilization of such instruments require specific training and documentation of such training.
I'm new to stock racing and have not had the "teardown opportunity". But, if someone was to slap a $1k fine on me.....I'd be asking these questions as a part of an appeal.
Yes, it would be interesting to know how or even if NHRA documents the accuracy of their measurement instruments. In order to back up their findings at any given time they would need to provide documentation that their instruments have been certified by a lab that has ISO 17025 certification and that certification is current. The measuring equipment also should be required to be verified before use to a certified standard. This is all basic stuff contained in ISO TS 16949 which pertains to the automotive industry . And what about written procedures for their use of their equipment? All of this needs to be brought up if you contest a fine as I doubt they could back up any of their findings.
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Old 05-10-2014, 12:33 PM   #2
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Yes, it would be interesting to know how or even if NHRA documents the accuracy of their measurement instruments. In order to back up their findings at any given time they would need to provide documentation that their instruments have been certified by a lab that has ISO 17025 certification and that certification is current. The measuring equipment also should be required to be verified before use to a certified standard. This is all basic stuff contained in ISO TS 16949 which pertains to the automotive industry . And what about written procedures for their use of their equipment? All of this needs to be brought up if you contest a fine as I doubt they could back up any of their findings.
You make a valid point.

In the cities of Medina and Bellevue, Washington, they passed a law called the "Bill Gates" law.

Bill Gates was known to always be speeding and getting tickets.
He will send his lawyer to court along with an electronics expert and the first thing they would question was the accuracy of the equipment, last time it was calibrated, the procedures for calibration and training for whomever perform the calibration.

When the police department could not provide the information, the judge had to throw away the ticket. After passing the law, other cities, county and State Patrol had to adopt the guidance. Therefore, when you get a speeding ticket, it will have the calibration information on the ticket.
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Old 05-10-2014, 04:58 PM   #3
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In the past this would be an infraction that would get you tossed from the event, but would have no further consequences. This fine is B.S. Such poor character folks running the show now. We all know this is not intended cheating and should be treated as such.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:10 PM   #4
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Dempsy Hardy learned the cylinder head in the cooler trick when he got tossed 40+ years ago for 1/2 a cc over on the heads of his Nationals class winning GTO Judge. They were legal when cooled off. Marty Snowball got tossed for class at the Nationals in the same era for ONE TRW pushrod accidently mixed in with the 15 Ford ones. Now theres a real performance advantage for you
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:46 PM   #5
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I guess I'll ask for a "Certified" tape measure (not from Harbor Freight) to find that 1/4 inch of wheelbase (Rt. side only) I got tossed for. It took about $300 worth of parts on the worn out /failing RT front suspension to correct the WB problem. Next time I better plan for NHRA's added diagnostic fees, too...
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:41 AM   #6
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I can only assume that this is a new policy being instituted by NHRA?
Well, IMHO, whoever is running the show had better figure out whether we are Professionals or Sportsmen. I don't see how the sanctioning body could levee a monetary fine against a Sportsmen racer, there's just not enough money to be made. Now if they're going to consider us Pros, then they had better start paying us accordingly!
I believe that Mr. Davidson would get NHRA laughed out of court.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:04 AM   #7
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Is there a posted schedule of fines? I can't imagine the cost of a more flagrant infraction

Can SRAC intervene or at least get some clarification when infractions jumped from DQ and time off to monetary fines?

Nees is right, this is not the way to treat amature Sportsman racers
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:52 PM   #8
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what a friggin B.S. joke... to think of the funds & effort it cost people to race and get this slapped on them? nhra must need the money...
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