1975 Index System

[Tom Moock]

Jimmyparker, in the mid 70`s we raced stock off the national record and they didn`t weight the car with the driver, I weighted close to 300 pounds and some of the guys I raced against in my class at indy (1974 I think )less than 150 pounds. the first year I raced my chevy II we had to use L60/15 style street tires, cheater slicks with tread, as I remember, but I`m getting old and that was long time ago. Tom

[Freddie Cain]

In division 2 in 1975 the hot ticket was a W through Z/SA 6 cylinder Chevelle.A Florida racer in a 6 cylinder glide Chevelle convertible won the Warner Robins points meet with ease.Check out the results for the Sports Nationals at Bowling Green that year,finalist were a Corvair and a 6 cylinder Chevelle wagon.

[Jim Parsons]

If I remember correctly it was our good friend Bob Shaw winning with the Corvair at Bowling Green, some things never change.

Jim

P.S. We miss seeing you at the races Bob and listening to the radio in luxury of that big Caddy.

[Bob Shaw]

Racing was a lot simpler back then. All you had to do was get a green light and outrun the car in the other lane.

[Randall Klein]

Bob, I'm very sure you liked it!!!

[Dick Butler]

Cannot remember the Par system. I bought my first official stocker in 1969 and always raced on the National records. Hard in the midwest to win on a California or Jersey National Record. Really fun because NO one could so we all were in the same boat and some days you out drove them.
I agree the current system is a "part of the scam". The others are the factoring system and the structure which allows a class for everyone instead of everyone racing a class.
Example of this is local National events allowing 80 entries and Hundreds of classes. Result no need for class only bracket racing. No need to tech because its only a dial in race if you are too busy. Added issue is developments by hi tech companies. Ever expanding rules in supposed limited class, S and SS. The Comp tech reachs these and presto HI BUCK Motors, Trans, and Cars. Result gone are the locally successful racers on a budget...

[Ed Wright]

I fully agree. Way too many classes. Too soft indexes.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

I bought my first official stocker in 1969

Ya know Dick, that one sentence speaks volumes. Every car that I've ever driven except for one(partner)I built either by myself or with the help of friends. You should try it sometime.
I also don't appreciate your comment about racing really being about "beating someone not playing the dial, the air gauge, the tech book for combos" crap. Even back in the heads-up days you had to be good at reading the air to get the right tune-up, you had to know whether to dump your opponent or leg it to keep from hurting your own record or going more than a tenth under and as I remember some of your cars, you didn't have them built or buy them from another racer without knowing that it was a good "tech book" combo.
I honestly can't figure out whether you don't think before you post or you just can't remember what real racing is.(that's about as PC as I can put it)

[goinbroke2]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Cannot remember the Par system. I bought my first official stocker in 1969 and always raced on the National records. Hard in the midwest to win on a California or Jersey National Record. Really fun because NO one could so we all were in the same boat and some days you out drove them.
I agree the current system is a "part of the scam". The others are the factoring system and the structure which allows a class for everyone instead of everyone racing a class.
Example of this is local National events allowing 80 entries and Hundreds of classes. Result no need for class only bracket racing. No need to tech because its only a dial in race if you are too busy. Added issue is developments by hi tech companies. Ever expanding rules in supposed limited class, S and SS. The Comp tech reachs these and presto HI BUCK Motors, Trans, and Cars. Result gone are the locally successful racers on a budget...

Yeah, there should be one class only right? Just sbc in 69 camaro's and who ever is the fastest wins? Sounds awesome, just find out who ever has the most money, and they win. YAY!! what an awesome concept!
Why not just race aircraft heads up? How many other ways can somebody say "I'm richer than you"? After all, the whole idea of dragracing was based on wallets right?

Dick, there are LOTS of places to go heads up racing. If you want to do that exclusively, have fun. Buy a "competitive car" for a couple hundred grand and have fun.

S/SS is fine the way it is with dial and heads up, thanks.