Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect everyone)

[Rich Biebel]

I lost a race this past weekend where I was on the brakes and ran over 1.5 mph faster than my best run over 3 days. No doubt in my mind the lights were tripped by my nose on that run and it looks clear that Scotty should have "dumped" to get the win at Indy. I had not seen those pictures before.......Racers obvioulsy have to know their own cars and what and where they trip the lights with.......I thought about it on my car but never addressed the problem and now it bit me..........

[Larry Sullivan]

Video frames are misleading - the top of the frame was scanned 1/60th of a second before the bottom of the screen frame (30 frames per second, two interlaced scans per frame), so the car in the nearer lane always appears to be ahead of its actual position because it was scanned later. In other words, you need a snapshot, not a vertically scanned video image, in order to get a true picture, or you need a video system that scans a lot quicker than 30 frames per second. The MOV in this example (.0047) is much smaller than the video frame uncertainty (.0167). And, given the angle of the finish stripe in the frame, the camera was not perpendicular to the track, further distorting the image.

[mannymen]

Did anyone out there Tivo the finals?

[Mickey Whaley]

Looks like the only thing that was distorted was the win light in the wrong lane. Looks like the steve johnson pro stock bike final the other year.

[Rick4310]

I have it on TIvo and you can only move it so slow, it is the same as in the photo shown..

[Geddes]

Guys,

Remember, we are really racing 1317.5 feet ( or so, depending on which body style you have) with beams 7 to 8 inches high at the stripe.

The tire starts the clock and the body/facia stops the clock.


??What was the reason for raising the beams at the stripe and when did if officially change?

[Dave Goob Cook]

Originally Posted by Geddes

Guys,

Remember, we are really racing 1317.5 feet ( or so, depending on which body style you have) with beams 7 to 8 inches high at the stripe.

The tire starts the clock and the body/facia stops the clock.


??What was the reason for raising the beams at the stripe and when did if officially change?

The change came with the Compulink "Startrac" system upgrade to infrareds, I can't remember the exact reasoning, other than I believe it was to compensate for the change from incandescent photocell receivers placed at 1 1/2" above the surface, also the 60' timer was moved to 61' 4", I think to compensate for the higher downtrack sensors, and keep the "standards" in line in regards to record attempts. It also helped alleviate the problems of anyone having a movable stripe catcher or other bodywork tricks.

Seems this all happened about 2000 or so.....We need Jeff Foster in here to answer this one.

[Geddes]

Thanks Dave.

Thats good info. I would like to know more about that 60' clock spec?

Hello Jeff Foster.......................More info please.

[Jack McCarthy]

ok guys... let me know if this is true ???

in a breakout category using front end not tires to break beams is factored into dail in...
if you dont dip your slow... dial it that way and dip and you breakout...correct ???

HOWEVER comp is different... you dont lose if you go to fast, just slap on wrist ??

jack mccarthy

p.s. from beard's pics i think it is obvious... barone's car got screwed.

[Jim Parsons]

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This is a good example in my opinion why NHRA should catch up with the rest of the racing world and go with electronic transmitters on each car i.e., NASCAR, F-1, Indy car SCCA and even Go Karts. These little transmitters are relatively cheap, about the size of a pack of cigarettes and project down onto a scoring wire laid in the track. Their accuracy is excellent as seen by the July 4 th. race at Daytona and you could do away with all those ancient photo-reflectors used now. It would also eliminate all the finish line issues with paper blowing across the track, dipping games played by cars with low front spoilers etc. Its a shame someone looses because of 1960?s technology.

Jim Parsons