NHRA Tether Rule Update - Page 8

SSDiv6 · 09-18-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

So SSDiv6, you are telling me that there is a logo stamped on one of these parts that sas "NHRA Approved"? I'm calling your bluff. Show me! I'm not buying one of these just to find out.

Jim,
What bluff? I am not promoting their products.
If you read my previous posts on this subject, I have give part numbers and options.
If you go to their website you will see they have an Orange color sleeve that says "NHRA Approved".
NHRA has said the approved devices must have an identification that shows it is an approved device. It was made clear to me by NHRA since I am helping a racing header builder with the design of a low cost device, affordable to all and legal to use.
I am not the enemy, just sharing what NHRA requires.

gsa612 · 09-18-2013, 11:04 PM

Here they are: click on the pic,

Jim Wahl · 09-18-2013, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Jim,
What bluff? I am not promoting their products.
If you read my previous posts on this subject, I have give part numbers and options.
If you go to their website you will see they have an Orange color sleeve that says "NHRA Approved".
NHRA has said the approved devices must have an identification that shows it is an approved device. It was made clear to me by NHRA since I am helping a racing header builder with the design of a low cost device, affordable to all and legal to use.
I am not the enemy, just sharing what NHRA requires.

OK. It's all good. Did not mean to be rude. This just really pisses me off! Jim

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Jim Wahl · 09-18-2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gsa612

Here they are: click on the pic,

Thanks sir. I still stand by my statement that we are fully capable of making our own tethers that will pass tech. Jim

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gonzo1066 · 09-19-2013, 12:00 AM

What if the tether falls off of the car???? I really think NHRA should demand a "Tether,Tether" With this logic racers should have a explosion proof bellhousing over the explosion proof bellhousing..

James Packer · 09-19-2013, 12:24 AM

Like wearing suspenders and a belt.

james schaechter · 09-19-2013, 06:14 AM

If an approved tether fails, the same lawyers that approved this will simply push the liability away to the racer anyway.

The point here is to improve safety for a problem that can and has occurred. I certainly understand that. Hopefully, NHRA will be open to better and more solutions. When there is only one provider, it is going to be more expensive than it needs to be. If they open it up, this could actually be a good thing by 2014.

I think that NHRA suffers from the same problem that many other Corporations suffer from. The Lawyers and Accountants make key decisions that are outside of their core competancy. Lawyers and Accountants (and other specialists) are supposed to offer expert advice to executive level decision makers that have done their due diligence. Then the Executives make a decision based upon all of the expert advice, their experience and any other research, which should include manufacturers and racers. If the executive level of decision makers are not capable or willing to take the responsibility of their positions and make these decisions, usually someone else will. Looks like a classic case here. Hopefully, the rule improves before 2014. I would not fault a lawyer, they are only looking at reducing risk. An accountant would be in favor of reducing potential payouts. We need a stronger executive level management team to run and represent racers in our Association. If we don't get that, these flaws in decision making or maybe absence of decision making will continue. The unintended consequence of this is a rule that is less than ideal. My hope is that common sense will prevail here. There are good people at NHRA that possess the experience and common sense, they just don't appear to have the authority they need.
I wonder who actually signed off on this?

dartman · 09-19-2013, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james packer

like wearing suspenders and a belt.

that's funny

Mike Gray · 09-19-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SSDiv6

You have to provide an identification or part marking for verification purposes.

I don't see one on the universal end?

gsa612 · 09-19-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Gray

I don't see one on the universal end?

That 1 end is 30 bucks!. lol..

09-18-2013, 11:04 PM	#72
gsa612 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 100th Meridian Posts: 569 Likes: 116 Liked 280 Times in 139 Posts	Re: NHRA Tether Rule Update Here they are: click on the pic, Attached Thumbnails Last edited by gsa612; 09-18-2013 at 11:08 PM.

09-19-2013, 12:00 AM	#75
gonzo1066 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: NW Washington state Posts: 61 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA Tether Rule Update What if the tether falls off of the car???? I really think NHRA should demand a "Tether,Tether" With this logic racers should have a explosion proof bellhousing over the explosion proof bellhousing..

09-19-2013, 12:24 AM	#76
James Packer Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Pasco, Wa. Posts: 15 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: NHRA Tether Rule Update Like wearing suspenders and a belt.

09-19-2013, 06:14 AM	#77
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,988 Likes: 1,281 Liked 1,428 Times in 296 Posts	Re: NHRA Tether Rule Update If an approved tether fails, the same lawyers that approved this will simply push the liability away to the racer anyway. The point here is to improve safety for a problem that can and has occurred. I certainly understand that. Hopefully, NHRA will be open to better and more solutions. When there is only one provider, it is going to be more expensive than it needs to be. If they open it up, this could actually be a good thing by 2014. I think that NHRA suffers from the same problem that many other Corporations suffer from. The Lawyers and Accountants make key decisions that are outside of their core competancy. Lawyers and Accountants (and other specialists) are supposed to offer expert advice to executive level decision makers that have done their due diligence. Then the Executives make a decision based upon all of the expert advice, their experience and any other research, which should include manufacturers and racers. If the executive level of decision makers are not capable or willing to take the responsibility of their positions and make these decisions, usually someone else will. Looks like a classic case here. Hopefully, the rule improves before 2014. I would not fault a lawyer, they are only looking at reducing risk. An accountant would be in favor of reducing potential payouts. We need a stronger executive level management team to run and represent racers in our Association. If we don't get that, these flaws in decision making or maybe absence of decision making will continue. The unintended consequence of this is a rule that is less than ideal. My hope is that common sense will prevail here. There are good people at NHRA that possess the experience and common sense, they just don't appear to have the authority they need. I wonder who actually signed off on this? __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK

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