Indy Tear Down

[boster]

Jeff , how about this one , car win's class SS/AAA and goes more then 1.25 under the index . Get's the index hit 2 tenths and does not have to tear down . Whats up with that ?

[Dave Casey]

I like the way they do it, it is random, and that way racers never know and will not manipulate the system to their advantage. You just gotta assume that you will be in teardown and if not then you get a day to relax. There has never been a test ,be it goin fast or whatever that got you into the barn. The closest thing was when all class winners were taken apart 10-20 years ago.

[Jeff Teuton]

Dave, I understand your point and it is well taken. But I must disagree. Unlike Obama, there should now be some rhyme or reason to do anything. There are virtually no inspections other than National Records or protests. If the car has little or no effect on the class or eliminations, then there is no point. And as pointed out by booster, anytime something like that occurs (1.20 under), there should be an inspection. I fully understand the new parts, new total car, new motor (like the new 426) where 1 passed and 1 failed, or if someone is playing games out there inspections are the aforementioned 'rhyme or reason' to tear someone down. I don't mean this as a fault of NHRA or anyone involved, but it is 2013 and even I have to change (according to my wife anyway). I also understand there must be regulation because it would be "Racers Gone Wild" if there wasn't. Must be some middle ground here somewhere. I missed a whole half day of drinking beer and visiting because of that. Whole Half Day. "English Gone Wild'.

[GTX5877]

I was always under the assumption they wanted to see what 'stock' really looked like

[Wade_Owens]

Originally Posted by GTX5877

I was always under the assumption they wanted to see what 'stock' really looked like

Now remember, "stock" is different from factory! LOL!!

Wade

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Wade_Owens

Now remember, "stock" is different from factory! LOL!!

Wade

D1 tech once threw me out for to little compression. Their books showed .004 out of the bore, I was .030 down the bore.
Another time their numbers in the book were off (by .375) for deck height. It would have been impossible to start the motor with their specs. I pulled a piston to show them And the director went through the diatribe about "stocker" pistons not always checking legal.
Went right over his head when I explained these were stock (put in by the factory on the assembly line) pistons unaltered never out of the motor before. And if they were not legal what the heck was.
California okayed it the next week. But I was not allowed to race the race, and they never refunded my entry fee.

[Stock4106]

Jeff, I agree with you that looking at most cars isn't necessary. However, with the AHFS, every car that qualifies affects the overall average for their combination and we should know it is legal.

[west coast]

I don't think there is any slow cars at INDY, if you can make it in your fast maybe sandbagging a little just to get in. I think anybody in the field could be in the barn. Just my opinion I am I the only one that thinks this way?

[Wade_Owens]

I think when you pull through the gate at a race as big as Indy, you should have some say on who goes to the barn. Here's how easy that is. When you go to the tech trailer with your credentials, and your running Stock or Super Stock, you get a blue teardown card. Write a competition number down for your enemy, foe, record holder, guy who smarted off, doesn't matter your reasoning, that would be one vote for that car. NHRA tallies that up Wednesday night, then includes the #1 Q and whoever else they feel needs to be there. Post a sheet for how many lucky votes you received by Thursday night and there you have it. I have been back class racing since 2007, there are some very fast cars that have never been in the barn, but somehow, the same guys seem to go over and over. We all know at least 1 car that needs to go, why not help them out. One thing is for sure, it is not random right now......

Wade

[Bobby Fazio]

Originally Posted by boster

Jeff , how about this one , car win's class SS/AAA and goes more then 1.25 under the index . Get's the index hit 2 tenths and does not have to tear down . Whats up with that ?

I think anytime index or HP rating is going to be affected, mandatory teardown should commence.