HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-07-2013, 03:19 PM   #1
Eric Merryfield
Senior Member
 
Eric Merryfield's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 872
Likes: 1
Liked 502 Times in 130 Posts
Cool Re: DP rear axle assembly

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton View Post
I think you will see something like this on the tech section, but a reminder to DP racers. The 9" rear is legal in a V10 car or a new 426 Car only, otherwise the 8 3/4 or Dana and the 9 1/4 or 8 1/4 if you are really brave are the accepted rear axles for these cars. Don't want anyone to show up and have a problem. This is for Stock Eliminator. From your roving reporter.
For the super brave I have a NOS in the box sure-grip for the 8 1/4...I wouldn't do it but you could....the 9 1/4 will not work due to lack of Spool and gear choices.....but you could run it with a sure grip, I run a nice detroit locker in the Lil Red this way.

8.75 and dana 60 are your logical choices, more gear choices for the dana 60 and of course it will live behind any of the DP motors, whether or not you gain any ET with a 8.75 is a consideration, as is your tranny if the ring and pinion goes.
__________________
Eric Merryfield 1883 STK
Eric Merryfield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2013, 06:20 PM   #2
Myron Piatek
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,542
Likes: 34
Liked 138 Times in 51 Posts
Post Re: DP rear axle assembly

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Merryfield View Post
For the super brave I have a NOS in the box sure-grip for the 8 1/4...I wouldn't do it but you could....the 9 1/4 will not work due to lack of Spool and gear choices.....but you could run it with a sure grip, I run a nice detroit locker in the Lil Red this way.

8.75 and dana 60 are your logical choices, more gear choices for the dana 60 and of course it will live behind any of the DP motors, whether or not you gain any ET with a 8.75 is a consideration, as is your tranny if the ring and pinion goes.
Wasn't there a SS/AA Cuda racer here in the southeast that ran a 9 1/4 rear? He later tried Pro Stock - Maybe a Duster, then Volare. X&*#@* I can't think of his name. (Not Bagwell.)

A Dana 60 is actually a pretty efficient rear due to the ring & pinion orientation. 12 bolt is the best and 9" the worst. There was a magazine article about it years ago. I've heard of some racers switch between the Dana 60 and 8 3/4", adjusting the overall weight, and didn't see any ET difference worth mentioning.
Myron Piatek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2013, 08:12 PM   #3
Stewart Way
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 476
Likes: 20
Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts
Default Re: DP rear axle assembly

Myron
Are you thinking of Jim Kinnett? I know he ran a 12 bolt gm but don't remember the 9 1/4.
__________________
Stewart Way 2424 SS
Stewart Way is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2013, 09:17 PM   #4
Myron Piatek
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,542
Likes: 34
Liked 138 Times in 51 Posts
Thumbs up Re: DP rear axle assembly

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewart Way View Post
Myron
Are you thinking of Jim Kinnett? I know he ran a 12 bolt gm but don't remember the 9 1/4.
Yes, Jim Kinnett. I suppose someone could have confused the 2 rears. I didn't see it myself. Thank you for clarifying that.
Myron Piatek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2013, 10:15 PM   #5
340Cuda
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Posts: 1,669
Likes: 3,849
Liked 800 Times in 337 Posts
Default Re: DP rear axle assembly

To reinforce what Myron was saying, we went from a 8 3/4 to a Dana 60 many years ago and in spite of the additional weight no change in ETs. The only real difference is that it quit spitting the gear out after trips thru a dip that was in the left lane in Tulsa at the time.
Bill
340Cuda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2013, 12:10 PM   #6
DonatoEng
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Milford, MI
Posts: 147
Likes: 12
Liked 8 Times in 5 Posts
Default Re: DP rear axle assembly

Jeff, That would make a 9" legal in an 09 or 10 DP with the 426, but illegal with all other engines.
And the reason ?
__________________
John Donato Stk / SS 3435
DonatoEng is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2013, 02:20 PM   #7
Stewart Way
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 476
Likes: 20
Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts
Default Re: DP rear axle assembly

There was no 426 or 9" in the 09 and 10. Not till 11.
__________________
Stewart Way 2424 SS
Stewart Way is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2013, 12:26 AM   #8
Jim Wahl
Veteran Member
 
Jim Wahl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,844
Likes: 666
Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Jim Wahl Send a message via Yahoo to Jim Wahl
Exclamation Re: DP rear axle assembly

Quote:
Originally Posted by Myron Piatek View Post
Yes, Jim Kinnett. I suppose someone could have confused the 2 rears. I didn't see it myself. Thank you for clarifying that.
It was Jim Kinnett. I actually have pictures of the 12 bolt in that car somewhere. It was in the Volare'. Jim

.
__________________
Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess)
2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion
2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion
1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up
Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.
Jim Wahl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2013, 10:03 AM   #9
Jeff Teuton
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Houma, LA
Posts: 2,717
Likes: 2
Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts
Default Re: DP rear axle assembly

The TI sheet for the 2011 V10 and the 2011 426 allow a 9" rear axle. This is what NHRA approved. Really pretty simple. The TI sheet is what manufacturers submit to NHRA for approval for specific approval of a car/engine combo. Anyway this is for information only. Do what you want.
__________________
Jeff Teuton 4022 STK
Jeff Teuton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2013, 10:28 AM   #10
Stewart Way
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 476
Likes: 20
Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts
Default Re: DP rear axle assembly

Jeff
I agree with everything you have written. The old techman in me is just trying to wrap my little brain around how this then applies to the rest of the Mopar fleet. It would seem that once the Strange9 was submitted on the TI and approved it then became "another from the same automobile manufacturer" as the rulebook requires to then be allowed for all Mopar stock racecars. Much the same as Mike described the Dana. Both built by an outside manufacturer and accepted in a car (Strange9) or cars (Dana) by NHRA and therefor would seem to be accepted in all Mopars as the Dana is. Again, where is my logic flawed?
__________________
Stewart Way 2424 SS
Stewart Way is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.