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Old 07-02-2013, 09:26 AM   #1
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I was impressed when we went down to Numidia last year for the Combo in Hills race. Once the stock/ super stock combo and .90's nats were done....yes done!!!! the stands started filling, the daily driver street cars started coming in and everyone was generally in a great mood. They have a weekly bracket street car auto bracket race, street car stick bracket and an open comp bracket race for cars with open headers and slicks. The stands were full. i think they chage a couple bucks a head and don't allow coolers. From what i remeber the stands were packed more than i have ever seen to watch a bracket race! I enetered my stocker in the bracket race and raced against an outlaw 55 chevy, a top dragster, a crap load of supe pro cars, made it to the finals! and hade a blast. Funny thing though, the stands were empty the rest of the weekend.

Don, you were there!

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Old 07-02-2013, 11:05 AM   #2
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I was impressed when we went down to Numidia last year for the Combo in Hills race. Once the stock/ super stock combo and .90's nats were done....yes done!!!! the stands started filling, the daily driver street cars started coming in and everyone was generally in a great mood. They have a weekly bracket street car auto bracket race, street car stick bracket and an open comp bracket race for cars with open headers and slicks. The stands were full. i think they chage a couple bucks a head and don't allow coolers. From what i remeber the stands were packed more than i have ever seen to watch a bracket race! I enetered my stocker in the bracket race and raced against an outlaw 55 chevy, a top dragster, a crap load of supe pro cars, made it to the finals! and hade a blast. Funny thing though, the stands were empty the rest of the weekend.

Don, you were there!
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open comp is a bracket race with no breakouts at most tracks. you run time trials and then the track takes a tenth off your fastest run and that is your dial. Most tracks if you go faster than a tenth under in eliminations, you do not lose the race, you only loose another tenth, 1st to the finish line wins.

Problem with any type of dial in race where you are not allowed to breakout is fans do not want to be bothered trying to figure out why the 1st car to the finish line lost, that is why all of the popularity of the heads up outlaw classes, 1st to the finish line wins.

Want to get fans in stands, make less classes and run off all classes heads up then use indexes in later rounds and base index on fastest run in each class up to that point. The problem with this type of racing, as it was in early seventies, most money usually wins in heads up races, racers stop showing up and look for another place to race, usually bracket racing which no one wants to watch and it is full circle to where it is today, stock and super stock is bracket racing that no one wants to watch.

Do not believe me about heads up racing, Maryland international dragway gets over 10,000 fans to their race in early november, which is all heads up racing.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:53 PM   #3
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We ran lbs. per cube in Bethany Mo. since late 60's, early seventies, and were always 1,000 to 1,500 spectators every night. No break-out. What crippled it were the people who could afford used comp engines versus the ones with 23 degree stuff. So we went to the brodix spec stuff, and last two years we ran, the finals of cars ranging from 4lbs. per cube, to cars at 11.5lbs. per cube, were decided by a total of .0003 in two finals, with .01 handicap for every 1\2 lbs. per cube. Why did it die, you ask? I closed it because of the bull**** we took over owning it, and racing there.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:56 PM   #4
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Not to be a smart @#ss, but 3 simple steps:

1. go to Walmart & buy a notebook & pen
2. go to Norwalk and take notes
3. implement

Why re-invent the wheel?
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:33 PM   #5
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Not to be a smart @#ss, but 3 simple steps:

1. go to Walmart & buy a notebook & pen
2. go to Norwalk and take notes
3. implement

Why re-invent the wheel?
Right on Randall
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:40 PM   #6
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Not to be a bigger smartass, and you don't even need a pen, just a visual. Go to Eddyville in the summer of 79, count the entries, and spectators, go there now. Go to Knoxville Ia. and count the spectators on a normal weekend. What do Eddyville in 79, and Knoxville today have in common? No shoe polish.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:02 PM   #7
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Well, someone called me up and said: "Google Bill Bader Jr" and scroll to his 5/15/12 interview with Drag Racing Online (DRO)

There 'ya go

By, the way, we attended 2 LODRS events there and it was amazing, from food providers to clean grounds, friendliness,and more...so we are on the mailing list. Once a year I get a brochure that is unlike those I get from Brainerd, Topeka and Denver in style and tone....each unique event up to their Halloween deal makes you want to be there
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