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Old 06-05-2013, 08:44 AM   #1
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I think I have to agree with Jack... Bob Lang would have to be crazy (no comments here) to come on here and answer questions. But I can guarantee he's listening. The week before the Maple Grove divisional, members of the super category SRAC had a meeting to discuss some issues, most notably track prep. Bob Lang was invited and gladly attended to rationally (key word here) discuss our concerns. He was more than willing to listen and accept some of our "suggestions." At the 'Grove, if anyone was paying attention, you would have noticed a marked difference in how the track was prepped, both before racing began and in between sessions. With Lang in charge of track prep at the nat events, that same scenario took place at E-Town. I'm not going to defend the poor starting line there, nor the crazy schedule but expecting to run two classes back to back with those cars shocking the tires in roughly the same place on a track that had temps well above 100-degrees, was probably a mistake. Something I think they (whoever "they" is at NHRA) would agree.

VP vs. VHT (which is really now PJ1)? Nat events use PJ1 (VHT). I don't know what they use on a weekly basis at E-Town or at a lot of other tracks, but the bottom line that both work well in most cases. My thoughts have always been that we spray too much and don't drag enough. Cars have to stick to rubber and the spray is only there to facilitate the rubber sticking to it.

Here's my point: If you think they're not listening, you're drastically mistaken. In regards to the track prep, trying to prep the track for different types of cars can drive anyone to drink. Trying to find that happy medium would probably have most of us popping open the Jim Beam a lot quicker than NHRA would.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:26 AM   #2
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I think I have to agree with Jack... Bob Lang would have to be crazy (no comments here) to come on here and answer questions. But I can guarantee he's listening.
Maybe he's reading but listening has yet to be proven and since you can "guarantee it, do tell us how you KNOW!

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With Lang in charge of track prep at the nat events, that same scenario took place at E-Town. I'm not going to defend the poor starting line there, nor the crazy schedule but expecting to run two classes back to back with those cars shocking the tires in roughly the same place on a track that had temps well above 100-degrees, was probably a mistake. Something I think they (whoever "they" is at NHRA) would agree.
Sure sounds like you ARE defending the deplorable starting line.

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Here's my point: If you think they're not listening, you're drastically mistaken.
that has not been proven in the past or now!

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In regards to the track prep, trying to prep the track for different types of cars can drive anyone to drink.
Again, sure sounds like you ARE defending the deplorable track conditions!
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:36 AM   #3
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Not trying to be a pain, just asking a question here, but is it NHRA's job to make sure that every single car hooks, especially when set up on kill? The V10 Dodge's made enough smoke at the Atco Open to shoo away the bugs.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:44 AM   #4
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We should run class in the driveway/front yard of whatever a**hole sued to get this despicable 10:00 - 6:00 curfew. Airplanes are ok but race cars are not, one weekend a year? They are probably in the Hamptons or Belmar this weekend anyway..

That schedule was ridiculous from the start, which is why I started a thread about it 5 days before the race. Factory radiators aren't going to cool a stocker much in 90 degree heat for 6 rounds in a row. Then super stock was herded like cattle for two runs in 30 minutes at the end of the day and screwed out of our third run.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:36 PM   #5
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Thursday schedule was horrible along with the track prep. I had no troubles but there were A LOTTTTTTT of races decided by the poor track prep.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:38 AM   #6
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I'm sure Lang won't get into a discussion on i-sites, as NHRA has a leash on social dialogues where the company line (or silence) can't be legal-proofed....it sure looks like they came down on Travis at one time, who now uses a disclosure

That said, it would be helpful if ND would just address what most of us believe, that is National Event track conditions are set up for wheel speed not dead hook...just confirm it and let the hi-HP sportsmen classes adjust chassis, low end power for that contingency

Since I believe NHRA will not listen to SRAC, board chatter or start line histronics, if I owned a new factory hot rod, taming 800-1000 HP on 9" tires, after spending $100K with one of the big 3 mfgs, I would ask those mfgs with their supposed clout to address this with NHRA.....how do they want their brands to come across to spectators, or heaven forbid, their customers

This is assuming they care after the sale

Since many believe Ford has lined NHRA pockets to acheive some unknown corporate stock-enhancement with their shareholders, and, it seems, the Ford flagship drivers are unhappy, go to Ford racing (or Mopar or GM) and ask them to intervene....do they want their corporate image looking like a tire-frying street junkie or a high flying wheels up balls-to-the-wall 21st century factory hot rod

Finally, it sure looks like NHRA is sending many signals that National Events are not for S/SS racers....if you attend, I think you must plan on the worst (parking, schedule, track prep, cancellation, no empathy)
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