Racer Suspension

[jmcarter]

Originally Posted by Lone Ranger

I personally know at least two racers who have obtained counterfeit SFI tags from Bob and Bonnie. One has personally bragged to me how they "get around the system" on a belt rule that they don't agree with. The name "Bob Dennis" came straight from his mouth.

Here are some facts
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1. They (the Dennis') print them up and sew them on themselves.
2. They provide them for others to do the same.
3. They were caught because they used a tag that was copied from a window net and had the wrong SFI number, an oversight that will cost them dearly.
4. They did not turn in the belts because they would be caught red-handed

It would be EASY to prove their innocence if there were a factory mis-labeling issue. They would have had to leave the belts with NHRA tech to ensure this was the case.

They should have a solid paper trail of the belt's initial purchase, and subsequent recertifications throughout the years for each set of belts. "Losing the receipt" is not a valid argument....the manufacturer will have ALL that information on file. The original manufacturer is the only company that can re-cert their own products. The Dennis' will not be able to provide this information.

NHRA tech department, if simply recording the brand of belt after the incident, will be able to do a cursory check and see that they have not purchased or recertified belts for years.

Let the accusations fly. These are the facts.

Do ANY of you here not have a solid paper trail for ALL the SFI items on your cars??
Would anyone NOT let NHRA tech take the belts and exonerate them if you know you were in the right?

Once one person dies with faked SFI equipment, we will ALL pay.

A no-name quotes an anonymous source and states "those are the facts". Get real.

[Lone Ranger]

Jim,
You will see the truth when this thing unfolds. You will see that I state the facts.

Of course I'm not going to use my real profile name on this...

[Jim Kaekel]

Any racer, once suspended, has the right to an appeal. It doesn't mean their guilty or innocent. It's just a way for them to keep racing until a final decision comes down from NHRA. Of course, you must put up an appeal fee...$$$$. The whole appeal process is in the rule book.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Lone Ranger

Jim,
You will see the truth when this thing unfolds. You will see that I state the facts.

Of course I'm not going to use my real profile name on this...

Do not need to use your real name; easy to track you via your Internet Protocol (IP) Address.
Then Bob could be looking at legal remedies against you for libel, that is prosecutable even if it is by the means of an internet posting.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by ssdiv6

do not need to use your real name; easy to track you via your internet protocol (ip) address.
Then bob could be looking at legal remedies against you for libel, that is prosecutable even if it is by the means of an internet posting.

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[sc4400]

Originally Posted by art leong

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Now it gets interesting. Where there is smoke, usually fire follows. I don't know Bob, but I know ONE thing. This deal has a smell to it. Refusal to turn over the belts is the ultimate charge. You folks who think NHRA is stupid are wrong.

I recently tried to tech with some pants that had come unsewn in a not easy to find spot. The tech guy was sharp, and he was right. I knew it. He wanted to keep the pants for the weekend, or keep my tech card and let me get them fixed. Very reasonable. I found someone to fix them, and got on with the weekend. No drama. No whining.

Those of you who defend not leaving the belts have a slim grip on the rules. If they fail to enforce the rules, the trial sharks chew them up. We all know this.

With the amount of "cheating" bandied about all the time, how tough is it to believe that someone might try to game the system?? Not very hard to imagine.

Ask your self, if you were putting YOUR money down in Vegas on this deal, where do you bet? Total innocence,or not??

And while you can sue a ham sandwich for libel, winning is a whole nother deal.

No axe to grind here, I don't know the players. But my money is on "NOT"

And as for tracking through an IP address, that's nuts. I'm on my job right now. At a "public" login terminal. Several hundred people can use this with NO tracing possible. So "lone ranger" could easily hide via that route. CSI is just a TV show.

RIP

[Mike Pearson]

Personally I would have refused to give up the parts in question. I would want them in my possession in case of further litigation such as the appeal. The tech guys probably took plenty of pictures. I hope it turns out good for the Dennis's. They are real nice people.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by sc4400

And as for tracking through an IP address, that's nuts. I'm on my job right now. At a "public" login terminal. Several hundred people can use this with NO tracing possible. So "lone ranger" could easily hide via that route. CSI is just a TV show.

RIP

Well, the technology to do so is not a CSI show; it is real.
If it is private, I can narrow the search to the local network. If it is public, I can track it through a variety of tools. The ISP will have a log linking it to the user and can also be traced back through proxies

[kdanner]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Well, the technology to do so is not a CSI show; it is real.
If it is private, I can narrow the search to the local network. If it is public, I can track it through a variety of tools. The ISP will have a log linking it to the user and can also be traced back through proxies

And anyone can drive to a Starbucks or McDonalds, etc and use the free wi-fi.