Smokey Ram

Snake SS-351 · 02-02-2013, 04:31 PM

For something posted on Racing "Junk" they sure are proud of it. I'm not even sure that a Smokey Ram will work for my application. For what they want for those intakes I could get a nice used Dart manifold, a brand new legal carb, fuel line, pressure gauge, and a nice scoop. Although I may not be enough left for the gauge.
This is for a 9.5:1, unported iron heads w/small valves, .450 lift, 355ci SBC with a 600cfm holley(spec Carb.) . With the valve springs we have to run 6500rpm is the absolute max. Would the Smokey Ram be a good option?

Jeff Lee · 02-02-2013, 05:17 PM

If you think $425 is a lot of money for a nostalgic intake manifold that has a high "cool factor", you will be looking a long time!

I seriously doubt this will work on your low compression, low lift cam 350. It's designed for high RPM race engines from Trans-Am days.

Run to Rund · 02-02-2013, 08:39 PM

I know a guy who tried it in the 1970s on a strong high rpm street-strip Chevelle. Based on the hype I thought it would work well, sort of like a cross ram. Turns out, the Tarantula walked all over it.

Jeff Lee · 02-03-2013, 01:06 AM

I think any box style intake needs extensive internal modifications to work on the strip, even more for the street. They are cool looking but it takes a lot to make them work. Direct Connection used to have a tech bulletin on modifying the Weind two piece intakes.
Edelbrock made the STR series and AMC guys love the cross-ram as they were factory on the SS/AMX's. Most cars run faster when they put a 750-850 Holley on a Torker. But go to a car show with a cross-ram and open the hood and everybody lines up and drools.

Snake SS-351 · 02-03-2013, 01:45 AM

That is the kind of information that helps, and I thank you for it. Having someone tell me how cool my junk is as they are walking over to congratulate the winner is not my idea of a good weekend. This was strictly about finding a competitive advantage, if there isn't one to be had with the Smokey Ram I will just move on. The rules state that I can run any single 4v intake manifold "as manufactured", aluminum or iron. No prototype, tunnel ram, or sheet metal intakes. Seems simple enough, just need to pick out the one that works best.

Again, Thanks for your thoughts.

Alan Sargent · 02-27-2013, 09:59 PM

[QUOTE=Jeff Lee;367577]If you think $425 is a lot of money for a nostalgic intake manifold that has a high "cool factor", you will be looking a long time!
QUOTE]

you got that right...I just sold a M/T Crossram intake, for $900, last weekend on Ebay.

02-02-2013, 04:31 PM	#1
Snake SS-351 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sarasota Fl. Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram For something posted on Racing "Junk" they sure are proud of it. I'm not even sure that a Smokey Ram will work for my application. For what they want for those intakes I could get a nice used Dart manifold, a brand new legal carb, fuel line, pressure gauge, and a nice scoop. Although I may not be enough left for the gauge. This is for a 9.5:1, unported iron heads w/small valves, .450 lift, 355ci SBC with a 600cfm holley(spec Carb.) . With the valve springs we have to run 6500rpm is the absolute max. Would the Smokey Ram be a good option?

02-02-2013, 05:17 PM	#2
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram If you think $425 is a lot of money for a nostalgic intake manifold that has a high "cool factor", you will be looking a long time! I seriously doubt this will work on your low compression, low lift cam 350. It's designed for high RPM race engines from Trans-Am days. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

02-02-2013, 08:39 PM	#3
Run to Rund Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 583 Likes: 8 Liked 54 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram I know a guy who tried it in the 1970s on a strong high rpm street-strip Chevelle. Based on the hype I thought it would work well, sort of like a cross ram. Turns out, the Tarantula walked all over it.

02-03-2013, 01:06 AM	#4
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram I think any box style intake needs extensive internal modifications to work on the strip, even more for the street. They are cool looking but it takes a lot to make them work. Direct Connection used to have a tech bulletin on modifying the Weind two piece intakes. Edelbrock made the STR series and AMC guys love the cross-ram as they were factory on the SS/AMX's. Most cars run faster when they put a 750-850 Holley on a Torker. But go to a car show with a cross-ram and open the hood and everybody lines up and drools. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

02-03-2013, 01:45 AM	#5
Snake SS-351 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sarasota Fl. Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram That is the kind of information that helps, and I thank you for it. Having someone tell me how cool my junk is as they are walking over to congratulate the winner is not my idea of a good weekend. This was strictly about finding a competitive advantage, if there isn't one to be had with the Smokey Ram I will just move on. The rules state that I can run any single 4v intake manifold "as manufactured", aluminum or iron. No prototype, tunnel ram, or sheet metal intakes. Seems simple enough, just need to pick out the one that works best. Again, Thanks for your thoughts.

02-27-2013, 09:59 PM	#6
Alan Sargent Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: North Georgia Posts: 33 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram [QUOTE=Jeff Lee;367577]If you think $425 is a lot of money for a nostalgic intake manifold that has a high "cool factor", you will be looking a long time! QUOTE] you got that right...I just sold a M/T Crossram intake, for $900, last weekend on Ebay.

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