American Muscle at The Dutch

Lew Silverman · 09-23-2012, 07:32 PM

So now this is 3 classes in an Eliminator within another Eliminator?

How will this be handicapped? You qualify off of the NEW index, which puts you on the ladder, but do you "dial-your-own", or do you run off the index?

And with no AHFS in force, the quickest car wins, correct?

And, BTW, you don't have to run this new Eliminator, you can still run your natural Stock Class?

Sorry for so many questions, but this is getting a little confusing. (At least to me!)

Lew

MikeFicacci · 09-23-2012, 07:43 PM

It's going to run like it did last year.

If you claim one of these three classes, that is where you stay in the eliminator.

There is no ladder at the Dutch. It's an Open with random first round pairings.

The first car to the finish line wins not the one furthest under the index just like any other "heads up" race.

Should be neat. Not sure who has the advantage. None the less, should be fun as was last year.

Jesse Kershaw · 09-24-2012, 11:27 AM

Kudos to Bob Lang (Division Director) and Gary Richards (race sponsor) for taking this step to grow the class. I agree that this is a solid step in the right direction and builds on the lessons learned at Indy.

3500lbs w/driver should be reasonable for the supercharged combos and 3300lbs for the NA V8's should be attainable.

I encourage all eligible racers to run this class. Only with participation will we be able to continue and refine the rules and bring some exciting heads-up racing to Stock. I am looking forward to seeing this!

BlueOval Ralph · 09-25-2012, 08:54 AM

200 lbs in not enough split for blower vs na cars do the math!

Nick Heath · 09-25-2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

200 lbs in not enough split for blower vs na cars do the math!

Read through all of the rules. There's three separate classes: one for blower cars, one for NA cars, and one for 450+ CI NA cars (effectively just the V10 Challengers).

Greg Hill · 09-26-2012, 05:19 PM

Just looked at this on the NHRA site and it looks a lot like three F/X classes. This is what needs to happen for all these cars. Also different indexes.

David Barton · 09-26-2012, 11:17 PM

There seems to be some confusion. There isn't three different classes, there is one class with three different weights with three different indexes. Yes, there is only a 200 lb difference between the V8 N/A and Blower cars but there is a .60 head start on the tree.

09-23-2012, 07:32 PM	#1
Lew Silverman VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,435 Likes: 371 Liked 129 Times in 59 Posts	Re: American Muscle at The Dutch So now this is 3 classes in an Eliminator within another Eliminator? How will this be handicapped? You qualify off of the NEW index, which puts you on the ladder, but do you "dial-your-own", or do you run off the index? And with no AHFS in force, the quickest car wins, correct? And, BTW, you don't have to run this new Eliminator, you can still run your natural Stock Class? Sorry for so many questions, but this is getting a little confusing. (At least to me!) Lew __________________ Lew Silverman #2070 "The Wagon Master" N/SA

09-23-2012, 07:43 PM	#2
MikeFicacci Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 242 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 2 Posts	Re: American Muscle at The Dutch It's going to run like it did last year. If you claim one of these three classes, that is where you stay in the eliminator. There is no ladder at the Dutch. It's an Open with random first round pairings. The first car to the finish line wins not the one furthest under the index just like any other "heads up" race. Should be neat. Not sure who has the advantage. None the less, should be fun as was last year. __________________ Mike Ficacci Stk 1010

09-24-2012, 11:27 AM	#3
Jesse Kershaw Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 108 Likes: 6 Liked 122 Times in 11 Posts	Re: American Muscle at The Dutch Kudos to Bob Lang (Division Director) and Gary Richards (race sponsor) for taking this step to grow the class. I agree that this is a solid step in the right direction and builds on the lessons learned at Indy. 3500lbs w/driver should be reasonable for the supercharged combos and 3300lbs for the NA V8's should be attainable. I encourage all eligible racers to run this class. Only with participation will we be able to continue and refine the rules and bring some exciting heads-up racing to Stock. I am looking forward to seeing this! __________________ Jesse Kershaw

09-25-2012, 08:54 AM	#4
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: American Muscle at The Dutch 200 lbs in not enough split for blower vs na cars do the math!

09-26-2012, 05:19 PM	#6
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: American Muscle at The Dutch Just looked at this on the NHRA site and it looks a lot like three F/X classes. This is what needs to happen for all these cars. Also different indexes. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

09-26-2012, 11:17 PM	#7
David Barton Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 199 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: American Muscle at The Dutch There seems to be some confusion. There isn't three different classes, there is one class with three different weights with three different indexes. Yes, there is only a 200 lb difference between the V8 N/A and Blower cars but there is a .60 head start on the tree.

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