The damage recently done

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by super trick

And for "Super Trick", I raced D/S last about 7 years ago. My ET's were 10.55-10.65 here in Arizona; never made it to a sea level track. And that was with a .457" cam, cast iron intake and 4300 Autolite. I'd suggest if you have a comparable D/S or D/SA car, you should be able to do better with 7 years in advancements. But I doubt it.

So 7 years years you spent a bunch of time,money and had a soft NHRA HP rating and ran fast? Boy don't hurt your arm patting your self on the back. Lets talk about what time and money (and low HP combos) cant buy, World championship, a race win. A couple things i don't here you talk about. There are plenty of people on here that post that have championships,race wins,records,# 1 qualifying you never here them talking about what they have done. Why? It's something called "CLASS". It's nice to think that some racers still have it.

First off, my D/S AMX was rated @ 315 HP. The same as the aforementioned 390 Mustangs at the time with their "improved" parts list. So if a Mustang 390 with larger oil pan, manifold and carb were "soft" but still weighed the same as my AMX, then I guess we were both "soft". And you also have no clue as to how much testing I've done, engines and clutches I've lost testing the limits.
Second, in one sentence you say you don't hear me talking about world championships, or race wins. Next sentence you say of those with such accomplishments, they don't mention it. Which end are you talking from?
Third, on the subject of class, you might notice I don't hide behind a screen name. Talk about classless!

[SStockDart]

Hey Super Truck.....go ahead and post your successes. I would like to see them and congratulate you. To Jeff's defense (and he needs none)....He built his car before he wanted to spend so much time with his children. Therefore, his priorities have shifted (pun intended)....

[super trick]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

First off, my D/S AMX was rated @ 315 HP. The same as the aforementioned 390 Mustangs at the time with their "improved" parts list. So if a Mustang 390 with larger oil pan, manifold and carb were "soft" but still weighed the same as my AMX, then I guess we were both "soft". And you also have no clue as to how much testing I've done, engines and clutches I've lost testing the limits.
Second, in one sentence you say you don't hear me talking about world championships, or race wins. Next sentence you say of those with such accomplishments, they don't mention it. Which end are you talking from?
Third, on the subject of class, you might notice I don't hide behind a screen name. Talk about classless!

Yes Jeff 315 HP is a soft HP. Testing,motors,clutches it's time and money u spent great. Anybody who has been on this forum at least twice in their life know that u set the record and qualified #1. Every other post your reminding us of how fast you went,set the record and top qualifier. You bought those achievements. When you win that first race or that first championship( takes skill and talent) then you might impress someone besides you!!!

BTW ..My name is Steven Whitmore from Iowa. Hurry,Hurry type it in Google!!

[Alex Denysenko]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

429 CJ got Q-Jet, 429 SCJ got 780. Base 351 got Autolite, Boss 351 and 351 CJ got 780. Different manifolds and cams.

Boss and CJ both had 4300d autolites only the very rare 351 HO RECIEVED THE 4150 780 HOLLEY
NASHES NEVER HAD A 4150 HOLLEY FROM THE FACTORY I THINK SOME OLD 327 REBEL MAY HAVE HAD A 4160 HOLLEY ONCE IN TH 50'S OR SOMETHING WAAAAAAAY BEFORE MY TIME. BILLY, JEFF TEUTON OR GREG AND LARRY HILL SHOULD KNOW THOUGH

[Jeff Lee]

Alex, what Holley are you trying to get approved for the 289 over the last ten years? Other than the 306 HP Shelby, I've never seen a Holley equipped 289.

Since your up on Fords, what factory (non Boss) 351C came with an aluminum intake manifold? Besides the Pantera.
If only the 351C HO came with a Holley, why are they on the other 351C's, Boss included?
Why is is that 390 Ford 4bbl's like Mustang came with a 600 Holley and now run the 735 Holly from the CJ?
I'm not even going to the Shelby issues.

And yes, the old Rambler 327 had a Holley 4bbl. Don't know the size. Engine discontinued in 1965.

[Dan Bennett]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

...And yes, the old Rambler 327 had a Holley 4bbl. Don't know the size. Engine discontinued in 1965.

Back in my wrench twisting days, I used to work on an early to mid sixties Rambler here in town. It had a Rambler engine (Typhoon?) which I'm pretty sure was a 327 and was equipped with a noticeably low performance Holley. I can't remember the body but I don't think they were using Ambassador yet. It was a full size four door, pretty luxurious at the time, air, nice interior, etc. I think the Rebel came later also.

On the larger issue, it seems that many people have lost track of the fact that drag racing used to be about engineering. Better parts ran better, and better racers ran even better than that. I feel for all the AMC racers as I owned a really nice 68 AMX 343 Go Package car in 1969. I had to retire from racing for a year or so until I bought a 70 Duster 340 and I could show my face again. Sorry, but it was just better engineering.

Headers really helped the AMX but only to the point where I might not be embarrased by a 327/300 Impala. The Super Stock AMX was a very good car, as were the Hurst Ramblers and the Hornet 360s. So, as much as I like those cars (one of the last things on my list is to build a Pro Street Pacer) I still can't agree with all the superceded parts. That goes for ALL those pulling these stunts, whether they race Mopar, Fords, Chevies, or AMC.

No one at Glendora still remembers what we're supposed to be doing.