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Old 07-06-2012, 04:33 PM   #1
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First my wife paula and I will be running our other camaros in stock the old fashioned way and having a blast.Next however when we ran Top Stock the stands were packed.Packed ------did you hear that packed!And we had a ball.You may not think there will be fan interest but i can't tell you the number of calls and E mails I have received asking if I got my car yet.
I think the big 3 were spot on developing these cars.I was just a little shaver when the muscle cars first appeared but I can tell you the warmth from the fire they created lasted for years and indeed judging from the number of those cars still in demand and racing I would say that fire has not gone out yet.But its time for a jump start and this factory deal is just that jump start.Just the excitement that has been generated from those of us who either have the Fords or Mopars or are waiting for the COPO was a charge this year already.
As for you fellas who are not part of this and don't care to be don't knock it.Its racing so its all good.If you want to have a beer or a hot dog while we are racing I suspect that there will not be any long lines to slow you down since the fans will be in their seats watching the factory showdown.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:49 PM   #2
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First my wife paula and I will be running our other camaros in stock the old fashioned way and having a blast.Next however when we ran Top Stock the stands were packed.Packed ------did you hear that packed!And we had a ball.You may not think there will be fan interest but i can't tell you the number of calls and E mails I have received asking if I got my car yet.
I think the big 3 were spot on developing these cars.I was just a little shaver when the muscle cars first appeared but I can tell you the warmth from the fire they created lasted for years and indeed judging from the number of those cars still in demand and racing I would say that fire has not gone out yet.But its time for a jump start and this factory deal is just that jump start.Just the excitement that has been generated from those of us who either have the Fords or Mopars or are waiting for the COPO was a charge this year already.
As for you fellas who are not part of this and don't care to be don't knock it.Its racing so its all good.If you want to have a beer or a hot dog while we are racing I suspect that there will not be any long lines to slow you down since the fans will be in their seats watching the factory showdown.
I agree with you. The problem is that some of the people complaining are used to being the king. Now that they are getting dethroned by the new cars all they want to do is complain about them and think that because they do not have interest, no one else does either. They are wrong in my opinion.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:38 PM   #3
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I agree with you. The problem is that some of the people complaining are used to being the king. Now that they are getting dethroned by the new cars all they want to do is complain about them and think that because they do not have interest, no one else does either. They are wrong in my opinion.
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Judging by your avatar only, there is some small chance that you will ever have to deal with them.
Bruce , I've had to deal with them, ran Don Fezell in class at Charlotte last year. No, I wasn't in his zip code at the finish line. The problem is everyone thinks you can buy one of those cars and are instantly fast. That's the furthest thing from the truth. It takes a lot of work to make those cars fast. It also takes a lot of money. If you want to know how I know, it's because I drive probably the only other 08 cobra jet stick car in the country other than Don. I'll also tell you I never had any interest in stock until I started driving this car.
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Chuck,
Right off the trailer your car should out run all of the older cars. The work and expense probably comes when you have to compete against each other.
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I would probably watch it if I were already there, time permitting.
I'd have to kinda squint my eyes a little, and imagine I was watching A/FX Eliminator.
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I'd have to kinda squint my eyes a little, and imagine I was watching A/FX Eliminator.
Which is what they should have called it.
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Chuck,
Right off the trailer your car should out run all of the older cars. The work and expense probably comes when you have to compete against each other.
That's where you are wrong. First time on the track it was a 10.60 car. After gathering data and working on it we were running 10.20's. More work and changes we got it into the nines. A lot more work and changes we picked up more but we still aren't near as fast as the top runners. Making any car fast takes more than what's under the hood. The newer cars have better suspension which is a big part of the package. I grew up in the muscle car era and have owned quite a few in my lifetime. I love the old cars, but time has brought improvement. As I'm sure you can tell, I run super gas and super comp as well. Over the years I have built better cars with better chassis in order to get the power I make applied to the track better.
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That's strange. Some folks buy these cars and run excellent numbers the first time out.
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:10 PM   #10
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That's where you are wrong. First time on the track it was a 10.60 car. After gathering data and working on it we were running 10.20's. More work and changes we got it into the nines. A lot more work and changes we picked up more but we still aren't near as fast as the top runners. Making any car fast takes more than what's under the hood. The newer cars have better suspension which is a big part of the package. I grew up in the muscle car era and have owned quite a few in my lifetime. I love the old cars, but time has brought improvement. As I'm sure you can tell, I run super gas and super comp as well. Over the years I have built better cars with better chassis in order to get the power I make applied to the track better.
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There was one in 2009 from Kansas in A/S at the Cordova points meet. I don't think the person driving and owning it ever put a wrench on it, but he went 10.70s if I remember correctly. He was granny shifting it to the point where you could count between gear changes so there was a ton left in a better trans clutch situation. I don't think the early ones got a decent stick trans in them.
Chuck, which race did you have to race Fezell in your CJ?
Ronzello had the first one out there in A Stick I think.
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