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Old 06-07-2012, 09:47 PM   #1
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My buddy with the V/SA Diplomat never believed me about how hard it was to dial a slow car until he got his car.

As Myron said, weather that changes a fast car .04 will change his car .1-.15, and you can never tell what the margin will be. His weather station thingy has proven to be almost useless.

The one advantage he has is the car will not spin even on the worst tracks.
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:58 PM   #2
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The 2 biggest disadvantages to a slow Stocker, the wind and track prep. Wind drastically affects a low powered car and dialing for it is a crap shoot at best. Being in the water box and watching the track crew spray the track is as bad to me as watching it rain on the track to a high powered car. And we won't even get into " wake surfing"!
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the 2 biggest disadvantages to a slow stocker, the wind and track prep. Wind drastically affects a low powered car and dialing for it is a crap shoot at best. Being in the water box and watching the track crew spray the track is as bad to me as watching it rain on the track to a high powered car. And we won't even get into " wake surfing"!
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:28 PM   #4
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My buddy with the V/SA Diplomat never believed me about how hard it was to dial a slow car until he got his car.

As Myron said, weather that changes a fast car .04 will change his car .1-.15, and you can never tell what the margin will be. His weather station thingy has proven to be almost useless.

The one advantage he has is the car will not spin even on the worst tracks.
Mmmm.... never say never. I went to an NHRA national event last year, and had the Turismo running great first two days. For first round of eliminations, the barometer had dropped like a stone. My E.T. predictor said .15 slow. Oh, BTW, we had a 22 mph direct tailwind! I dialed DOWN. First round of eliminations, blew the tire off. Spun .08 and missed the dial by... you guessed it, .08. Mm.

But yah, it's typically a 3:1 or 4:1 change over an 11-sec car. No substitute for seat time. You may dial big changes, but it can still be somewhat predictable with experience.
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:33 AM   #5
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Jody Lang certainly seems to have the "disadvantages" of a slower car under control!
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:55 AM   #6
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Before the ecomony took a dive a few years ago, I was the slower car in bracket racing at our local track 85 % of the time. (I keep records and stats)
I got alot of seat time looking over my shoulder and judging rate-of-gain as well as time-n-distance.

My Pure Stocker is even slower than my bracket car (by about .4 sec.)

I say that an experienced driver in a slow machine has the same chance of winning rounds as a fast car.

However, as stated above, it does seem that weather changes effect a slower car more.
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